I would highly recommend Mathers, got my GH1 there. Ordered on a Monday and with me on Tuesday morning. However I will hold off on buying a GH2 until I see (and read) some decent reviews of it. Also the lack of 25p is just pathetic. Whether or not the image quality is better than the GH1 would be the main reason for me to upgrade, but I don't know if I would be bothered speeding up all my footage by 4% from the useless 23.976 to a world standard framerate of 25fps or just stick with my GH1 and buy something else in a year or two.
GH2 official discussion thread
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I would highly recommend Mathers, got my GH1 there. Ordered on a Monday and with me on Tuesday morning. However I will hold off on buying a GH2 until I see (and read) some decent reviews of it. Also the lack of 25p is just pathetic. Whether or not the image quality is better than the GH1 would be the main reason for me to upgrade, but I don't know if I would be bothered speeding up all my footage by 4% from the useless 23.976 to a world standard framerate of 25fps or just stick with my GH1 and buy something else in a year or two.
Because some people want to see how these cameras stack up against the GH2. Since the GH2 isn't out yet this is the best that can be done right now. When I get the GH2 in a month I can redo the test though. Atleast for now you can see how the D7000 does against the GH1. Which is probably a close match for the D7000 vs. GH2.
RieniO
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Cool, bodies only! Thanks, I just e-mailed them.
I appreciated the time and effort you put into the test - and, to be honest, I was very taken with the D7000.
Image quality seemed good, focus was fast - but what put me off was the clonking & clanking of the lens during AF.
Couple of questions -
I assume that an external mic would greatly reduce the cacophony? (and a Tascam would render it inconsequential)
Was it just *that* lens - or do they all kick up a din?
I know you didn't test Canon - but do you know whether, say, the 60D would also make a noise during AF
I've no experience of other VDSLR's - and, to be honest, when I bought my 14-140mm I took the 'silent' claim with a pinch of salt. However, I can see that, compared to the competition, the 14-140 *is* pretty silent.
Perhaps this isn't the right thread for these questions - and, if so, I apologise in advance.
I'd still like to know, though :smile:
You're welcome.
They'll be closed until Monday - but, hopefully, they'll agree to ship to France. If for any reason they won't, let me know, and I'll do what I can to help.
Good prices, aren't they? (well, 'good' in the context of the UK/Europe) I think you're wise to go for body only - I think that Ebay will be saturated with 14-42's, and they'll go very cheaply.
One point, they do ask for £100 deposit, no prob, but, if you do order it yourself, pay it by CC just in case
Jesse Brauning
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World standard?
That's the most subjective crap I've ever heard.
It may be the standard where you live. Don't call it the world standard.
No need to get uppidity about it, If there was a world standard in broadcast it would be PAL more of the world uses it by far.
GrahamH
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Perhaps, but they are not broadcasting 25P.
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roei z
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Low light quite noisy... Hope the Gh2 will be better
Matthew P
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Yes they do. Almost all high quality material is 25p in PAL land (PAL land is most of the world), like dramas, documentaries, films, etc. Things would be much more simple, actually, if the world just used PAL....
25p = film motion, goes perfectly into 50i without juddery motion on any PAL device (even ancient ones).
50i = smooth video motion, can easily be converted to 25p without juddery motion if required
compare that to the rather complicated NTSC standard...
24p = film motion, only smooth at cinemas or on high end playback devices that detect and display correctly, can't go evenly into any television standard
30p = smooth video look
60i = smooth video look, can only be converted to 30p and can't display any film framerates smoothly
And NTSC has fractional framerates to boot!
That's my little biased rant about NTSC vs PAL.There used to be a brand of dog food called PAL :laugh:
You're probably too young to recall it - but there was a long running TV ad, featuring an energetic dog, bounding across flickering black & white TV screens, while the voice over assured prospective purchasers that, "PAL Prolongs Active Life"
And they say that TV ads don't work!....:laugh:
Spectra
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I honestly feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with frame rates of 29.97, 59.94 or 23.976 frames per second video on a daily basis....pure insanity.
Matthew P
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50i can hold 25p rather nicely.
It's still progressive, just in an interlaced container.In Norway, the relatively new digital broadcast (DVB-T) is 720p50 (usually produced from 1080i50 footage). Elsewhere in Europe I believe 1080i25 is quite common. all within the 1,5gbps bitrate limit.
EDIT: Bitrate limits probably vary from country to country, some (few I think) probably allowing fullHD (progressive), but in Norway they only produce and broadcast 1,5Gbps as of now.
EDIT2: I think I confused myself a bit with the 1080i25 / 1080i50, I was just citing a Norwegian source. a little clarification perhaps:
WIKI - "Resolutions of 1080i60 or 1080i50 often refers to 1080i/30 or 1080i/25 in EBU notation."
EDIT: Bitrate limits probably vary from country to country, some (few I think) probably allowing fullHD (progressive), but in Norway they only produce and broadcast 1,5Gbps as of now.
EDIT2: I think I confused myself a bit with the 1080i25 / 1080i50, I was just citing a Norwegian source. a little clarification perhaps:
WIKI - "Resolutions of 1080i60 or 1080i50 often refers to 1080i/30 or 1080i/25 in EBU notation."
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