GH1 has Sony Competition -- NEX5

It is brother for NX10 :-)
Auto all, adapted 14.2MP sensor and 1080i plus bad encoder.
And main thing - it is tiny and almost no controls.
Marketing department rules.
 
Ozpeter said:
"Easily the biggest news, though, is that the Sony NEX series are the first interchangeable lens digital cameras designed to tackle continuous autofocus and exposure adjustment while recording video"

From http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NEX5/NEX5A.HTM

What planet do they bring these reviewers down from?
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Actually, this is just the thing I recently found out about the GH-1, that I'd like to 'get rid of'... if it is 'autofocus single', it ought to be exactly that... if it is 'autofocus continuous', that exactly what it should be...

The only thing I could think of here would be Sony has a faster AF operation during video... wow... I'm going to break my piggy bank for that, for sure...
 
Ben_B said:
Autofocus Single is great for photos...
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I heartily agree... and it would be great for videos as well, rather than having to go to manual mode to get the 'single' to stay 'single'...

Under some occasions I think 'continuous' may be 'good' for some value of 'good', in video, one would get into how fast can the continuous focus process converge, and on the right 'subject'... sort of an auto focus puller...

How I learned of the lack of autosingle in taking videos was, when I was shooting a conference show booth setup. I'd 'autofocus single', then noticed while the video was running, the focus would slowly converge on 'background' elements, because I had shifted the framing to a more 'aesthetically' pleasing shot, or a 'two shot' where now the focusing area was between the two people in the foreground...

But it was not like 'continuous' where there may be a short, under a second perhaps, lag... it was sort of like that slow drift that one is unaware of it, until it is really obvious...
 
Does anyone know if the camera will support stop down metering? If not you can forget about using manual lenses. A lot of us think it would be a no-brainer, but this is Sony we're talking about, king of proprietary. I suspect they'll see the ability to use non-Sony lenses as a bad thing (they think they'll sell fewer lenses...in the long run more support will mean they'll sell more bodies and more lenses but they don't think like that.) Even Nikon doesn't support stop-down (with Nikon glass, the camera has no choice with adapted lenses) metering in its low-end DSLRs (which is sort of absurd.) In any case, I get the feeling maybe it won't...anyone know? It would be pretty hard to cripple stop-down metering in an EVIL camera, they'd have to intentionally break it (just only allow lenses with electronic contacts or the camera won't work) but again, I would not put it past Sony.
 
Steve Castle said:
18mm? Wow, that's shorter then the m43rds system. You could conceivable make a adapter to fit m43rds lenses on this system (granted the projected image circle would be smaller). I'm hoping they have a cropped mode for this camera.
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Also you'd get no aperture control, you'd have to put it on your m4/3 camera, put it in video mode, set the aperture, and then pull the battery. Lol.
 
Ben_B said:
Also you'd get no aperture control, you'd have to put it on your m4/3 camera, put it in video mode, set the aperture, and then pull the battery. Lol.
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Well, that'll be true for any electronic-aperture lens, on any system via adapter.

Also, I'm assuming it'll have stopped down metering since they will need it for compatibility with older Alpha-mount glass. Not to mention, if you have a manual lens on it and stop it down, since its sensor-based metering there is nothing to prevent it from metering if you physically change the aperture.

As far as how proprietary this camera is, it does have SD slots (SDHC/SDXC), and it has a very adapter-friendly FFD.

Let's also keep in mind, these cameras are really $320-$450 (NEX3-NEX5) bodies. That's very entry-level, there obviously will be more higher-end versions of this camera.
 
Steve Castle said:
Well, that'll be true for any electronic-aperture lens, on any system via adapter.

Also, I'm assuming it'll have stopped down metering since they will need it for compatibility with older Alpha-mount glass. Not to mention, if you have a manual lens on it and stop it down, since its sensor-based metering there is nothing to prevent it from metering if you physically change the aperture.

As far as how proprietary this camera is, it does have SD slots (SDHC/SDXC), and it has a very adapter-friendly FFD.

Let's also keep in mind, these cameras are really $320-$450 (NEX3-NEX5) bodies. That's very entry-level, there obviously will be more higher-end versions of this camera.
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All they'd have to do to ensure its compatibility with older alpha glass while still locking metering out is to put some electronics in a proprietary alpha adaptor, so that the camera will only run with that adaptor connected. Again, this probably isn't likely, but again, I wouldn't put it past Sony to lock out non-Sony lenses, and not including a "shoot without lens" mode.

Also, the camera does not have a hot-shoe, instead it has a proprietary Sony connector for accessories like a flash.
 
Ben_B said:
All they'd have to do to ensure its compatibility with older alpha glass while still locking metering out is to put some electronics in a proprietary alpha adaptor, so that the camera will only run with that adaptor connected. Again, this probably isn't likely, but again, I wouldn't put it past Sony to lock out non-Sony lenses, and not including a "shoot without lens" mode.

Also, the camera does not have a hot-shoe, instead it has a proprietary Sony connector for accessories like a flash.
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There's no rationale or presence for that, they don't do that with their current Alpha mount, you can put adapters on it as you will.

Also, these mirrorless cameras do metering on-sensor, not off, like dSLRs. So stop-down metering is built in, there should be no problem adjusting your aperture on your manual lens if it has a aperture ring.
 
Ozpeter said:
"Easily the biggest news, though, is that the Sony NEX series are the first interchangeable lens digital cameras designed to tackle continuous autofocus and exposure adjustment while recording video"

From http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NEX5/NEX5A.HTM

What planet do they bring these reviewers down from?
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The original quote was "the first APS-C interchangeable lens camera..." Which is true, but Sony had to make the APS-C qualifier in order to make it true.
 
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