GH1 First impressions and footage
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First sight looked like some HPX3000 footage. I know what Barry meant when he saw it on a Production monitor.
After rolling through it and getting a grip on it, it's more like an EX-1 if the EX-1 had a larger sensor and interchangeable lenses.
It eats the Nikon D90 alive, and no matter what Nikon updates on the D90 it will STILL eat it alive because they will not fix:
A. Rolling Shutter ( I won't ever go back to this now)
B. MJPEG Compression ( The work around is okay, And the footage doesn't look bad after it's applied, still annoying)
C. Glass Limited to Nikon and very scant few others.
A and C are the biggest ones. I don't think ANY rolling shutter will be corrected in the D90 and youll be extremely lucky to get it in the D400.
After rolling through it and getting a grip on it, it's more like an EX-1 if the EX-1 had a larger sensor and interchangeable lenses.
It eats the Nikon D90 alive, and no matter what Nikon updates on the D90 it will STILL eat it alive because they will not fix:
A. Rolling Shutter ( I won't ever go back to this now)
B. MJPEG Compression ( The work around is okay, And the footage doesn't look bad after it's applied, still annoying)
C. Glass Limited to Nikon and very scant few others.
A and C are the biggest ones. I don't think ANY rolling shutter will be corrected in the D90 and youll be extremely lucky to get it in the D400.
PappasArts
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If anything, the GH1 has killed all the HV20/30/40- HVX & Canon A1 adapter crap for good.
It has a higher MTF frequency resolution because of the dense sensor than those small sensor cams do. All is good, cause this is just the beginning. Nice beginning isn't it....
ydgmdlu
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See: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=169871
It's the because the 5D Mk II has bigger photosites and presumably better engineering. One is more accurate in saying that thinking a latest-generation $1500 (including lens) prosumer camera could come close to the performance of a latest-generation $2700 (body only) professional camera would be naive.
Why? The hmx20 was a very very decent camcorder. And if they are aiming to lead the hybrid market I am counting on their product... Oh I am so looking forward because I want to choose the best one and start shooting...
Exciting times
ydgmdlu
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Eh, you can't forget that some people (not me) are obsessed with the full-frame field of view that most/all adapters provide. There are a few people for whom the crop factor actually is the deal-breaker.
PappasArts
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Not bad to be anywhere near the EX-1 for 1500 with access to way more lenses. And have a bigger sensor to boot.
Kholi I must have missed the Mjpeg discussion, where was that? Lightning fast threads, stuff gets lost quick....
Definitely. I dunno about projection but then again, CRANK 2. you know?
it's all relative. And Mattias did some awesome work with the D90, as well as some others.
Imagine what they could ahve done with manual controls and no Jello limitations?
You're right, Nikon's gonna have to make a new camera, the D400 has an opportunity but I HIGHLY doubt it.
PappasArts
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However the crop factor is more inline with super35 which is for the most part, all films are lensed too.
People call it a crop factor, yet those that shoot 35mm film or even Red, don't refer to their format as cropped.
Funny how things can get so crazy with all this.
DavidNJ
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It is widely believed that the Canon is only scanning every third of its rows, so although it is physically slightly less than 4x the size, it is actually closer to a third larger (133% vs. 400%). The Canon would then also be asymmetrical, scanning 5616x1080.
Nikon's got an issue with the recording where you have to interpolate lines in post.
The MJPEG from the GH-1 is better, but it's only 30P. =(
PappasArts
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Are you going to try out Premiere Kholi? Isn't there a free trial version?
Exactly. As far as Im concerned the GH-1's "Crop factor' is non-existant. I'm not worried about Full Frame, it only limits your choice of glass for the most part.
I'm completely at home with the GH-1's sensor size or the D90's sensor size. The rest is just hair splittin'.
Zim
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I have Premiere. I just have yet to actually use it. But I plan on it real soon.
I think it's just going to be better all around. FCP is so damned old hat it's ridiculous.
PappasArts
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Thank you, I'm glad I'm not alone on this. I love large format, hell my dad handed me my first 120 at 5yrs old. However different tools for different projects..
What gets me is people start wanting more than the very films/filmakers had used on films that got those same people to want to make films or docs etc in the first place. What, that ""cropped "" look ain't good anymore.. Lol
Poor Kubrick had no idea he was " Cropped". :-(.... ====> for Kubrick............