GH1 discontinued; GH2 in September/October
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Homunculus
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any indications of what the price range will be, what the new features will be etc?
alignment1
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Homunculus
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so does this mean hackable GH1's will now be worth like 2000$ used for body only? Since they won't be available in stores anymore and GH2 price will probably be 2000-3000 (just guessing) and GH1(3) will probably be as powerful if not more powerful than GH2 since I'm sure Panasonic had long designed the GH2 to basically do what GH1(3) is now capable of .
So really this 'announcement' probably is nothing major because as I said I wouldn't be surprised if hacked GH1 is as powerful as GH2 and that's the reason that Panasonic is not commenting on it because they don't want to officially support an old product that is as powerful or more powerful than their new GH2 that is coming out because that would sort of obviate the whole purpose of releasing a GH2.
So point is, if you ask me, hold on to your GH1's boys and girls cus I doubt GH2 will be that much better if at all other than having slightly better ergonomic differences perhaps and other minor things like better sound and live hdmi out, etc, but in terms of visual picture quality, codec bitrate, etc I can't see it being any better than GH1(3)
So really this 'announcement' probably is nothing major because as I said I wouldn't be surprised if hacked GH1 is as powerful as GH2 and that's the reason that Panasonic is not commenting on it because they don't want to officially support an old product that is as powerful or more powerful than their new GH2 that is coming out because that would sort of obviate the whole purpose of releasing a GH2.
So point is, if you ask me, hold on to your GH1's boys and girls cus I doubt GH2 will be that much better if at all other than having slightly better ergonomic differences perhaps and other minor things like better sound and live hdmi out, etc, but in terms of visual picture quality, codec bitrate, etc I can't see it being any better than GH1(3)
Emanuel
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My friend (is Svart your real name?
this is not a rumor, there's no anonymous source behind. Even 'cause I'm not used to pay attention to them. Just someone with a real name from day one, that is, me. Since almost five years ago in these same boards where you are now.But I understand, I could think the same though, if I hadn't heard it from someone inside Panasonic España.
Moreover, I had ordered 3/4 units, not even one they have now for supply. There's no other information to add, as of today.
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Pietro Impagliazzo
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My friend (is Svart your real name?
But I understand, I could think the same though, if I hadn't heard it from someone inside Panasonic España.
Moreover, I had ordered 3/4 units, not even one they have now for supply. There's no other information to add, as of today.
Emanuel
Should I feel bad about having ordered a GH1 last month?
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ajamils
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Not at all. In the light of GH-13 development, I don't see a big enough reason to GH2 unless HDMI out is a BIG priority for you. Also, there is no confirmation about the specs of GH2 or when it will be released. Also, even once it released, how long will it take before you will be able to get one easily.
I think it is best to stick it GH1 for now and GH2 does have a lot of good features and you really want one.... you can get it but I'm sure it will be at least 6 months before you can get your hands on one.
Emanuel
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If you had talked with them like me today, you wouldn't say 6 months. They don't simply have GH1 for delivery 'cause they said they're waiting for the GH2. That's what I heard after pending an order of 3/4 units for 2 days. I have my doubts on September/October time frame but that's what they said: «to be announced in September in order to be released in October». That part just doesn't sound me anything other than seller talk.
Homunculus
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screw the GH2 they need to hurry up with the development of AF100
If this was true, posting it here was so p.c. :costumed-smiley-047
Peter J. DeCrescenzo
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Not sure yet when it will be released but the information is coming from inside. GH2 is there. It will be announced no later than September/October. GH1 is discontinued. It is official, at least for me
Thanks for this info, Emanuel. It'll be interesting to see how Panasonic rolls out the "GH2" compared to when the GH1 was released. They started selling the GH1 in Japan in late April '09 several weeks before it was available in the US and various other countries. I wonder if they'll do a similar roll-out this time, too.
For myself, a "GH2" only has to have some of the improvements (better-quality 1080p, live video & audio out, ability to turn off audio AGC/limiter) that we discussed more than a year ago, and sell for less than $2K US, to be well worth buying:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1654842&postcount=7
It'll be a bummer if it doesn't have these capabilities. But then again, the "GH2" won't be the only camera in sea, so to speak.
I might rent an AF-100, but I doubt I'll buy one, but who knows. With both the "GH2" and the AF-100, it depends on what features & performance the final shipping versions offer. The good news is we don't have much longer to wait.
Matt Gottshalk
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Different divisions.
Emanuel
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Indeed. As we both know we had been in touch just a couple of weeks ago trying to figure out how to go ahead with that order. I entered in touch with andorravision.com, an andorran reputable seller who sold the last unit on July 19 from a bunch of 50 units sold out in just a few weeks for €749:Thanks for this info, Emanuel. It'll be interesting to see how Panasonic rolls out the "GH2" compared to when the GH1 was released. They started selling the GH1 in Japan in late April '09 several weeks before it was available in the US and various other countries. I wonder if they'll do a similar roll-out this time, too.
For myself, a "GH2" only has to have some of the improvements (better-quality 1080p, live video & audio out, ability to turn off audio AGC/limiter) that we discussed more than a year ago, and sell for less than $2K US, to be well worth buying:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=1654842&postcount=7
It'll be a bummer if it doesn't have these capabilities. But then again, the "GH2" won't be the only camera in sea, so to speak.
I might rent an AF-100, but I doubt I'll buy one, but who knows. With both the "GH2" and the AF-100, it depends on what features & performance the final shipping versions offer. The good news is we don't have much longer to wait.
http://www.andorravision.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1176
They had said they would receive more this week in order to satisfy my order. Same price 'cause of the GH2. Today, they confirmed they won't receive not even more 1 unit. At the same time, their provider, Panasonic España dropped the same information with me. In the meantime, I've got stock for a few units with another Panasonic rep in a different EU country. But they're interested to quickly sell them out too. As well, I'm waiting for my UK supplier who has advised me they will notice us next week about the stock status. They are sold out as of now.
For your information and curiosity, I'm buying several units once I am dealing with training programs and to me this small camera is as much valuable as a RED ONE, if not even more considering the price.
That said, I believe the GH2 will follow a similar price range, if not it wouldn't make sense to discontinue the GH1.
GH1 is discontinued. It is official, at least for me
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From Panasonic:
"The new GH2 will have an advanced processor that will run at about three times the speed of the current GH1. The imaging chip is the same, as are the optics, and shooting modes, but we are especially happy that the extra speed will be used to run a highly advanced encryption hack detection system preventing anything like the ptools tester13 incident from ever happening again. This is a real breakthrough for us and we're proud to announce it to the marketplace. Hacking our cameras to compete with or blow away our cameras costing upwards of 10 to 20 times as much as the GH1 is a big no no and makes us and the people who bought those cameras cry. 17 mbits avchd is the way to go and the wave of the future, as well as overpriced one brand batteries and p2 cards, we're thinking of encrypting standard SD cards as well. Also, we would like to clarify to the public: 'mud' and 'skew' as well as 'jello' are ARTISTIC FEATURES, not errors or problems, and hacking the camera removes these features. We don't want to remove artistic features from our users. Also, we're glad to report that the GH2 will return back to our kooky 24p encased in a pain in the ass 60i wrapper, because hey, removing pulldown is fun, and we don't want our cameras to not be fun!"
"The new GH2 will have an advanced processor that will run at about three times the speed of the current GH1. The imaging chip is the same, as are the optics, and shooting modes, but we are especially happy that the extra speed will be used to run a highly advanced encryption hack detection system preventing anything like the ptools tester13 incident from ever happening again. This is a real breakthrough for us and we're proud to announce it to the marketplace. Hacking our cameras to compete with or blow away our cameras costing upwards of 10 to 20 times as much as the GH1 is a big no no and makes us and the people who bought those cameras cry. 17 mbits avchd is the way to go and the wave of the future, as well as overpriced one brand batteries and p2 cards, we're thinking of encrypting standard SD cards as well. Also, we would like to clarify to the public: 'mud' and 'skew' as well as 'jello' are ARTISTIC FEATURES, not errors or problems, and hacking the camera removes these features. We don't want to remove artistic features from our users. Also, we're glad to report that the GH2 will return back to our kooky 24p encased in a pain in the ass 60i wrapper, because hey, removing pulldown is fun, and we don't want our cameras to not be fun!"
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Pietro Impagliazzo
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You had me for a second.
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