GF1 official!

Yes, I meant pre-ordered... So far I only found Amazon.com to have it available for pre-order.
Supposedly Adorama would carry it soon but I placed the order first and maybe do one there when they have it listed.
 
Yeah I would hold off preordering from Amazon if I were you given that they were the first site to get the GH1 for preorder and the last to have it in stock.
 
20mm pancake

20mm pancake

I agree with yslee. $400 is serious price gouging for this lens. Nikon's most excellent DX 35mm f1.8 is only $200, tack sharp wide open, silent focusing. This pancake is a normal lens, 40mm is not wide, just like 52mm is not wide. They're going it because they can - what else are you going to buy with AF? The 20mm pancake does not AF during video.

That said, I just preordered the GF1/20mm. Let's see how Panny is handling this release.
 
And $200 is cheap for a 70mm (on GH1) f/1.8? Regardless of whether or not 40mm is wide or not the fact is that it's one of the widest lenses available for the GH1 at that price point. Here isn't anything wider at near that speed for near that cheap (except for the Olympus 17mm f/2.8)

So even if it's not a wide lens it's still one of the widest currently available, and if you're stuck shooting with tighter lenses right now like so many of us are, in the 50-100mm range with the crop factor.
 
wowubbzy said:
I agree with yslee. $400 is serious price gouging for this lens. Nikon's most excellent DX 35mm f1.8 is only $200, tack sharp wide open, silent focusing. This pancake is a normal lens, 40mm is not wide, just like 52mm is not wide. They're going it because they can - what else are you going to buy with AF? The 20mm pancake does not AF during video.

That said, I just preordered the GF1/20mm. Let's see how Panny is handling this release.
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I can't find the reviews that mentioned AF or non-AF during video. Is this a limitation of the GF1 or the 20mm pancake? Can you post the link?
 
vip77 said:
admactanium said:
Very noisy. It sounds like a homemade robot wrestling match. Wheeet. Wheeet. Chunk.
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That's fantastic for when i'm filming people doing the "robot" dance.

Does the 25mm Autofocus whilst recording video?

Is there a way to dampen the sound?

If the Leica were to AF in the middle of a deserted forest would anyone hear it? <joke
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It doesn't autofocus whilst recording. It will only work in AF-S and Manual. You can invoke a focus cycle whilst recording but it won't constantly focus. The refocus cycle isn't something anyone would want in footage as it's very fast and also very loud. But it's useful if you want to reframe something without stopping your take as long as you plan to cut around the refocus.

I don't really see how you could dampen the sound much unless you had some sort of rig around the whole thing.
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Just an FYI, if you guys know anyone who works for a company that has Panasonic Partner status then the price on Panny's direct site is much cheaper and from my experience they get products out much faster. I got my LX3 and my GH1 earlier than they seemed to be widely available.
 
admactanium said:
It doesn't autofocus whilst recording.
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Oh, bummer. That's lessened my excitement a bit... I suppose the prospect of having the camera pull focus for me at f/1.7 was too good to be true. Just shows my laziness, I guess. Damnit, technology! Do all my work for me!
 
The 20mm pancake does not AF during video.
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Where did you get that idea from? Everything I've seen so far says that it does.

The GF1 kit is being sold at 899 with the pancake at the U.S Panny store, which makes the lens even more attractive if you get a second cheap back up body for the GH1.

Imaging Resource have put up an early review of the GF1. On the movie recording they say that in Creative Movie mode, the iso reverts to auto, so it appears that even if you can lock the shutter whilst shooting Aperture Priority there might still be some variation in iso
 
Lens adapters?

Lens adapters?

I'm assuming this this is the same lens mount that's used on the GH1? If so, will all the lens adapters (like the canon FD ones) work with this body, the same way they do with the GH1? For the price difference, I might be willing to take 30p and less manual control for the shallow DOF :)
 
Yeah, this, the Olympus E-P1 and the GH1 all share the m4/3 mount. You should be able to swap the the same lens mounts between them, providing you've got the right adapters. I think the Olympus can control more older 4/3 lenses for AF than the Panny's can, but that's about the only difference I can see.
 
AdrianF said:
Where did you get that idea from? Everything I've seen so far says that it does.
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Hmm. I just scoured a few articles I coud find on the GF1 and the 20/1.7 but couldn't find anything that says whether it supports video AF or not...

Can anyone point me to a source that says without a doubt that it does or doesn't?

My hunch is that it won't, as asking the GH/F1 to pick out a focus point from the shallow depth of field that f/1.7 can give and maintain it seems like a very big ask. Or is there no reason it should be any more difficult?
 
I just got my GF1/20mm pancake kit today. I apologize, the pancake DOES AF during videos even in the GF1.

What got me thinking it does not AF in videos is when I handled an early preproduction sample of the GF1/20mm pancake, AFC is grayed out in the AF selection screen (it still is). That applies to still photos. I didn't dig far enough into the menus. There's a separate continuous AF setting within the video settings, like the GH1.

So, the 20mm pancake does AF during videos (and does it very well, it's pretty quiet if you ask me). It does not allow continuous AF (AFC) during still photos.

This is probably old new by now, just wanted to apologize for posting the wrong information.

PS the 20mm pancake is tack-sharp on stills even wide open f1.7. But I still think the lens alone for $400 is too much, that is if you can find one anytime soon.
 
Can you confirm what frame rate the video is shot at? I'm guessing there's no manual control over the shutter/aperture during video recording either? If that's the case, how jumpy is the exposure compensation? I'd love to see some samples :)

Thanks!
 
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