FS7: Getting a FS7, have some questions!

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Admir

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Hi all!

I have decided to get out of the DSLR-hell and go over to a proper videocam body. I will get the FS7 but I have some questions:

1. I am editing right now in premiere CS 5.5, will there be any issues with importing any of the formats that the camera shoots in? I really don't want to have a transcode-hassle everytime before editing.
2. When it comes to editing speed, is it easier or heavier for Premiere to handle the material if you compare it to say AVCHD or GH4 4K files?
3. Memory cards- I was thinking on going with the Lexar x1333 64gb cards, as far as I can see people are happy with those, what do you think?
4. I have some nice Nikon mount glass (Tokina 11-16, Sigma 18-55, Nikon 50mm 1.4). Will there by any difference if I would pick up an a mount sigma 18-35 and mount directly compared to taking my nikon mount and using an adapter to a mount, will I get the same FOV?

That would be it! Any answer is greatly appreciated! =)
 
Admir said:
Hi all!

I have decided to get out of the DSLR-hell and go over to a proper videocam body. I will get the FS7 but I have some questions:

1. I am editing right now in premiere CS 5.5, will there be any issues with importing any of the formats that the camera shoots in? I really don't want to have a transcode-hassle everytime before editing.
2. When it comes to editing speed, is it easier or heavier for Premiere to handle the material if you compare it to say AVCHD or GH4 4K files?
3. Memory cards- I was thinking on going with the Lexar x1333 64gb cards, as far as I can see people are happy with those, what do you think?
4. I have some nice Nikon mount glass (Tokina 11-16, Sigma 18-55, Nikon 50mm 1.4). Will there by any difference if I would pick up an a mount sigma 18-35 and mount directly compared to taking my nikon mount and using an adapter to a mount, will I get the same FOV?

That would be it! Any answer is greatly appreciated! =)
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1. I was on CS5.5 and yes, you will need to bite the subscription bullet and go over to CC 2014. I have avoided CC2015 and Win 10 for the time being.
2. I and others have seen no difference in edit speeds but there are others who appear to struggle. If your system is "Adobe" tuned from previous versions and you have followed the "Tweakers Guide" with good disk speeds and management then you are good to go. Personally, the change over gave me opportunity to spring clean the whole system.

Hopefully, I won't need to see you over on the Adobe Help Forum.

I'll leave others to answer your other queries.

Welcome to the FS7 - excellent choice.

Claire
 
Admir said:
Hi all!

1. I am editing right now in premiere CS 5.5, will there be any issues with importing any of the formats that the camera shoots in? I really don't want to have a transcode-hassle everytime before editing.
2. When it comes to editing speed, is it easier or heavier for Premiere to handle the material if you compare it to say AVCHD or GH4 4K files?
3. Memory cards- I was thinking on going with the Lexar x1333 64gb cards, as far as I can see people are happy with those, what do you think?
4. I have some nice Nikon mount glass (Tokina 11-16, Sigma 18-55, Nikon 50mm 1.4). Will there by any difference if I would pick up an a mount sigma 18-35 and mount directly compared to taking my nikon mount and using an adapter to a mount, will I get the same FOV? )
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1 adobe premier cc2015 sometimes has a problem with viewing media, when imported the media-bin keeps refreshing all the time if you scroll, the thumbnails are visible and suddenly they reftresh. But no transcoding problems all files are nicely ingested. (this is a known problem on adobe forum, once solved and now again a problem)
2 I have a new PC wit intel I7 5720 and a lot of ram and sdd, 4 K no problem.
3 lexar 1333 are right not a problem in any mode


4 don't know, read somewhere the Tokina 11-16 only works well from 15 mm but not sure. Old Nikkor lenses are working OK as far as i Know, declicking is also easy.

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Peter Bosman
 
4: I think that the Tokina will work throughout the whole range on standard adapter. If you use a Speedbooster though I think it starts vignetting about 14/15mm. This is with EF glass but I would assume the same would apply with Nikon glass/adapters.
 
Theres an FS3/FS5 body coming out very soon. Stay tuned for that before you plunge into the FS7.

Maybe its the answer for your needs. Maybe not.
 
The older Sony reader works with the Lexar cards. The 1333x cards seem to work fine. They do not have the error correction which the Sony XQD cards have and that in part accounts for the lower price.

To the OP-- the Nikon adapters do not have any electronics so your operation will be totally manual. I dont have a problem with that but if you were expecting any electronic control of lens, stay with native e-mount or use an EF adapter with electronics.

Ned Soltz
 
Wow I was gone a couple of hours and already so many answers! What a great spirit, so nice of you to help me out!

I guess that I might go over to the Abode CC since transcoding is some of the worst things I know (together with external recorders).

Are there any "cheaper" cards that also works, or is Lexar the cheapest you can go in order to make everything work? I played around with an FS7 today, felt a bit awkward on the shoulder, couldnt get it to sit properly somehow... Not that I had that much time to adjust out the arm nor did I get a chance to adjust the shoulderpad a bit backwards as that might have helped. Right?

Good to know about lenses, I won't go the speedbooster route since I like to have one adapter on each lens to that I don't have to fiddle and possible scratch the back element on the pin of the adapter (both my Tokina 11-16 and my Sigma 18-35 has minor scratch marks on the the rear from the darned pin on the Nikon mount adapter).
 
Speed booster will only work on your 50mm prime as the others are not full frame. FOV will be the same as APS-C which I assume you must be using already anyway. With a Nikon adapter you won't have electronic control of your aperture thus won't be controllable with the arm, , but you will have smooth manual control with an adapter- though you won't get a readout on what your aperture is. The A mount lens should have electronic aperture control from the arm and its pretty smooth, better than with Canon glass and adapters which is steppy. Hard to beat that Sigma 18-35. FOV is always the same - 18mm is 18mm. It will be different on full frame camera of course, but it makes no difference if its a full frame lens or not - 18mm is 18mm.
 
Lenilenapi said:
Speed booster will only work on your 50mm prime as the others are not full frame. FOV will be the same as APS-C which I assume you must be using already anyway. With a Nikon adapter you won't have electronic control of your aperture thus won't be controllable with the arm, , but you will have smooth manual control with an adapter- though you won't get a readout on what your aperture is. The A mount lens should have electronic aperture control from the arm and its pretty smooth, better than with Canon glass and adapters which is steppy. Hard to beat that Sigma 18-35. FOV is always the same - 18mm is 18mm. It will be different on full frame camera of course, but it makes no difference if its a full frame lens or not - 18mm is 18mm.
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I am used to never have any type of electronic control over my lenses. I've been dealing with all manual settings since the 35mm adapter days (boy have we come a long way since that era!)

The thing I can't fully understand is that how come a lens that mounts directly to the FS7 can have the same FOV of the same lens connected through an adapter and then to a body. I mean, the entire lens is pushed farther away from the camera's sensor so how come that the sensor can see the same amount of the lens?

Also, I am really sad to see my Voigtlander 25mm 0.95 go, but it can't be used on the FS7 :(.
 
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The cameras all have different flange focal distances. The E mount is relatively short so even with an adapter it still works out. its not possible to make a speed booster for the FV mount for an F5 though because the camera mount is too long. However you can make a Nikon or an EF adapter for the F5. They have to keep the correct distance to the sensor so obviously FOV remains the same.
 
Lenilenapi said:
The cameras all have different flange focal distances. The E mount is relatively short so even with an adapter it still works out. its not possible to make a speed booster for the FV mount for an F5 though because the camera mount is too long. However you can make a Nikon or an EF adapter for the F5. They have to keep the correct distance to the sensor so obviously FOV remains the same.
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That makes a lot of sense! Thank you! No chance on earth that my beloved M43 lens (Voigtlander 25 0.95) will work on the FS7? I found this video so it gave me some hope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnE0lUbhZkc
 
And again. Wait until Friday, when Sony announces their new FS camera. Maybe it's all you need for less than the FS7. Maybe it's not. Maybe it will be available too late anyway. But just a few days left until we know.
 
dmitrizigany said:
And again. Wait until Friday, when Sony announces their new FS camera. Maybe it's all you need for less than the FS7. Maybe it's not. Maybe it will be available too late anyway. But just a few days left until we know.
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Yes thanks for the tip! I think it will be pretty much the same without 4k 60p and the ultra slow mo, minus the monitor but instead just a little viewfinder at the back, but who knows!
 
Lenilenapi said:
The cameras all have different flange focal distances. The E mount is relatively short so even with an adapter it still works out. its not possible to make a speed booster for the FV mount for an F5 though because the camera mount is too long. However you can make a Nikon or an EF adapter for the F5. They have to keep the correct distance to the sensor so obviously FOV remains the same.
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A Sony FZ mount focal reducer *IS* possible! It just not popular enough to happen at commercial quantities, only a few limited handcrafted ones have been made.
 
>No chance on earth that my beloved M43 lens (Voigtlander 25 0.95) will work on the FS7?

A M43 lens would not fill the super 35mm frame unless there were glass in the adapter. Seems unlikely, but maybe someone makes it.


 
Jim Ritscher said:
>No chance on earth that my beloved M43 lens (Voigtlander 25 0.95) will work on the FS7?

A M43 lens would not fill the super 35mm frame unless there were glass in the adapter. Seems unlikely, but maybe someone makes it.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking... Oh well there are plenty of other lenses out there to fall in love with.

When it comes to memory cards, are the Lexar 1100x cards compatible with the FS7 or are the 1333x minimum for a working camera?
 
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