FX6: FX6 with ext. recorder - color the same?
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Doug Jensen
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Why the hell would you want to use an external recorder with the FX6? Just stop right now and come to your senses. 
But to answer your question anyway, the SDI output from the camera will match exactly what is being recorded if you set the camera up that way . . . but what the Atomos does to that signal when it captures it is another thing.
But to answer your question anyway, the SDI output from the camera will match exactly what is being recorded if you set the camera up that way . . . but what the Atomos does to that signal when it captures it is another thing.
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Thanks. Yes Sounds like dumb idea but reason is the ext recorder would give me a codec my nle will accept until I fully transition to a replacement nle. once I am up to speed in replacement nle I can accept the internal codecs natively w/o transcoding. My eyes aren’t getting any better either so the bigger screen might not be a total burden
Doug Jensen
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XAVC (all flavors) is one of the most universally easy to edit codecs ever made. If you've got hardware or software that can't handle XAVC, you're years behind the times. With all due respect, you remind me of people who buy a luxury car and then complain that the premium gas it requires is too expensive. Don't buy a camera if you can't handle the codec it records. And I suggest you don't try to tell Sony how to redesign their cameras just to suit your needs when you're using gear from the dark ages.
drboffa
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I believe you will get a color shift [EDIT: really a gamma shift, I believe] unless you tell the NLE you are using to interpret the footage correctly. Premiere, Resolve, FCP will all recognize slog3 XAVC as full (data) levels, thus interpreting the footage correctly. They will not recognize the ProRes files as full (data) levels, since ProRes is "correctly" interpreted as video levels/range. In Resolve you can change this very easily; in Premiere and FCP it's not as straightforward.
This was the case with previous FS cameras from Sony, and I believe it's the case with the FX6. I don't know that I've ever tested it since I find the internal codec to be more than adequate on the FX6 (which was not the case with my Fs5).
This was the case with previous FS cameras from Sony, and I believe it's the case with the FX6. I don't know that I've ever tested it since I find the internal codec to be more than adequate on the FX6 (which was not the case with my Fs5).
sorry late to respond - super busy. Comments remind me back when I was into cars in the 90s and someone would buy a new performance car and then be in financial trouble when they found out the cost of tires later on, or the hot rod guy with the built high lift high compression engine later determining he can't afford the high octane gas prices so he detunes it and ends up with a dog.
In my case, after several decades of Premiere I'm transitioning to alternatives. I hope my 64 core / 128 thread Threadrippers with 256GB RAM and RTX 4090s and 4080 can meet the demand for a while. We'll see I guess. In the meantime tired old dogs are slow to new tricks so I find myself using my 'ol 10 core Xeon w/ 64GB RAM w/ Titan & Matrox with PPro CS6 because I am much faster, comfortable and busy, and it is limited on which flavors of XAVC it will ingest.
As far as the comment that adding XAVC-S could complicate/confuse FX6 owners elswhere... XAVC-S is used by the FX3 and FX30. Would it hurt if all three cameras could record the same? Often they are used as A-B cams. I expect most users who bought an FX6 could handle navigating the menu selection with one more codec option? Not going to happen anyway
Thank you very much for the information - I did not know this
cyvideo
Veteran
As drboffa states. Yes, there can be issues. It's a bit of a 'gottcha' I've seen many jobs come into post where the footage has to be corrected. The FX6 is no different in this regard to any of the other Sony cams. Or Panasonic, Fuji cams, etc, etc. Depends on whether you are recording in 709 or LOG on the Ninja. How the Ninja V treats the differences between 'video levels' and full range 'data levels' is important to know if you don't want to be caught out. The quickest way to get your head around the issues involved is to maybe watch Gerald Undone's video on the subject, where all is explained quite well.
Chris Young