FX1 to Film. Stunning results
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J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
Ya know?
What does that even mean? The wrong thread? Do I go around 'taunting' people? DO I? No. I don't. I get along with everyone. But every once in awhile some clone shows up and opens his trap; blah blah blah.
Jeez.
Ya know?
What does that even mean? The wrong thread? Do I go around 'taunting' people? DO I? No. I don't. I get along with everyone. But every once in awhile some clone shows up and opens his trap; blah blah blah.
Jeez.
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
What does it mean, "in the wrong thread"?
What does it mean, "in the wrong thread"?
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
I have done the film transfer that Steve_Shovlor mentioned. I am also a member of DVX User forum, because I own a DVX 100 (not the 100a). I do not own a HD FX1 but after seing the results which were obtained from the sample clips I am going to buy the camera. I will not sell my DVX100. It gives beautiful footage.
I have read through Jarred and Barry's review of the HD FX1 comparing it with the DVX 100A and XL2. I tried to manipulate the FX1 images which were shown in the article to match the DVX 100a images in After Effects. I could get the shadow details out of the HD FX1 images by handling the curves in AE. The narrow Latitude problem could be fixed in post, if you keep the highlights within the range. The low sensitivity may be countered with gain. Since I do not have the camera now, I can not say more about that.
What I was trying to do was to get the DVX look from the FX1 image. From the limited footage available from both cameras filming the same scene (only the stills from the review), it seems that it could be done. I intend to use FX1 to shoot a feature which will be transfered to film. The difference in resolution of SD and HDV is very much evident on a 50' screen.
When transfering the FX1 footage to film I did not apply any pull down. I will be shooting in 50i and the need does not arise. No need to do anything to get the film look. The final print is in film and every physical characteristics of film is there.
Steve,
Email me your address. I will post a few frames from the transfer. But remember they are in the animorphic format. So an anamorphic lens is required to view it at the correct aspect ratio.
David Jimmerson,
Do not trust any unillustrasted testimonials (how I could illustrate the film transfer, bothers me). Do get a transfer done by DV Film. They may have already done a demo reel using FX1 footage. I totally agree that resolution is not everything. That is why I tried manipulating the FX1 image to get the look of DVX100.
John Hudson,
I did not see anything laughable on that thread. Let us share your amusement.
I have done the film transfer that Steve_Shovlor mentioned. I am also a member of DVX User forum, because I own a DVX 100 (not the 100a). I do not own a HD FX1 but after seing the results which were obtained from the sample clips I am going to buy the camera. I will not sell my DVX100. It gives beautiful footage.
I have read through Jarred and Barry's review of the HD FX1 comparing it with the DVX 100A and XL2. I tried to manipulate the FX1 images which were shown in the article to match the DVX 100a images in After Effects. I could get the shadow details out of the HD FX1 images by handling the curves in AE. The narrow Latitude problem could be fixed in post, if you keep the highlights within the range. The low sensitivity may be countered with gain. Since I do not have the camera now, I can not say more about that.
What I was trying to do was to get the DVX look from the FX1 image. From the limited footage available from both cameras filming the same scene (only the stills from the review), it seems that it could be done. I intend to use FX1 to shoot a feature which will be transfered to film. The difference in resolution of SD and HDV is very much evident on a 50' screen.
When transfering the FX1 footage to film I did not apply any pull down. I will be shooting in 50i and the need does not arise. No need to do anything to get the film look. The final print is in film and every physical characteristics of film is there.
Steve,
Email me your address. I will post a few frames from the transfer. But remember they are in the animorphic format. So an anamorphic lens is required to view it at the correct aspect ratio.
David Jimmerson,
Do not trust any unillustrasted testimonials (how I could illustrate the film transfer, bothers me). Do get a transfer done by DV Film. They may have already done a demo reel using FX1 footage. I totally agree that resolution is not everything. That is why I tried manipulating the FX1 image to get the look of DVX100.
John Hudson,
I did not see anything laughable on that thread. Let us share your amusement.
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
[quote author=Maheel link=board=sony;num=1105207471;start=15#23 date=01/22/05 at 20:57:09]
David Jimmerson,
Do not trust any unillustrasted testimonials (how I could illustrate the film transfer, bothers me). Do get a transfer done by DV Film. They may have already done a demo reel using FX1 footage. I totally agree that resolution is not everything. That is why I tried manipulating the FX1 image to get the look of DVX100.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I said.
[quote author=Maheel link=board=sony;num=1105207471;start=15#23 date=01/22/05 at 20:57:09]
David Jimmerson,
Do not trust any unillustrasted testimonials (how I could illustrate the film transfer, bothers me). Do get a transfer done by DV Film. They may have already done a demo reel using FX1 footage. I totally agree that resolution is not everything. That is why I tried manipulating the FX1 image to get the look of DVX100.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I said.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
Maheel
If you didn't get it the first time; me explaining it to you isn't going to do a bit of good.
Maheel
If you didn't get it the first time; me explaining it to you isn't going to do a bit of good.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
You can have a serious discussion Maf; don't let me stop you. Look around outside the walls of this particular thread and you'll find the lot of us tend to have fun even in the most serious of discussions. In fact, this forum has been built on the members being able to relax and have fun while getting and giving the information needed.
Relax a little; we can learn alot and find the answers we seek while still having a bit of fun. If you're looking for a straight, no-nonsense approach perhaps this is the wrong forum for you.
If you find the bits of humor and chit chat distracting then it's your choice; either particpate or ignore them.
You can have a serious discussion Maf; don't let me stop you. Look around outside the walls of this particular thread and you'll find the lot of us tend to have fun even in the most serious of discussions. In fact, this forum has been built on the members being able to relax and have fun while getting and giving the information needed.
Relax a little; we can learn alot and find the answers we seek while still having a bit of fun. If you're looking for a straight, no-nonsense approach perhaps this is the wrong forum for you.
If you find the bits of humor and chit chat distracting then it's your choice; either particpate or ignore them.
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
No doubt. Get the lay of the place before you start busting on people. It's just the way we do business around here.
No doubt. Get the lay of the place before you start busting on people. It's just the way we do business around here.
Jeff_Chandler
Member
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
It's one of the things that attracted me to this forum. I enjoy a good discussion with a laugh thrown in here and there.
It's one of the things that attracted me to this forum. I enjoy a good discussion with a laugh thrown in here and there.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
And the happy face is the most important tool in here ;D
Serious; there are other foums that will delete your post or tell you to stop if for one second you stray from the topic. Thats no fun.
And the happy face is the most important tool in here ;DSerious; there are other foums that will delete your post or tell you to stop if for one second you stray from the topic. Thats no fun.
TimeKoder13
Well-known member
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
;D RELAX all PC SONY dudes, If I can't rotflmao once in a while, I'm in the wrong biz. I own the VX2K, love the DVX, and am about to shoot a film (straight to dvd) and part of the fee is the Z1. SO I don't care if Panny comes out with HD the day after we start filming, I'll just sell the Z1. But my question is since all these folks who DO like the F1 are obviously working with, well, F1s, do I need to even bother with the Z1? Some say CF is horse _ hit, others find it acceptable. I've got a gillion "film look" techniques, but in camera is always better. We're doing real sound, boom to sony md so I don't care about XLR. Am I missing a need to have feature of the Z1, other than 24p? If not, that's an extra $1500 in my pocket. ...and yeah SONY doesn't get it. Their response when asked why no 24p was included with the VX2100 and PD170 was that their user base of wedding videographers were happy W/O 24p. What BS were they smoking? We were all EXPECTING 24p with those models.
;D RELAX all PC SONY dudes, If I can't rotflmao once in a while, I'm in the wrong biz. I own the VX2K, love the DVX, and am about to shoot a film (straight to dvd) and part of the fee is the Z1. SO I don't care if Panny comes out with HD the day after we start filming, I'll just sell the Z1. But my question is since all these folks who DO like the F1 are obviously working with, well, F1s, do I need to even bother with the Z1? Some say CF is horse _ hit, others find it acceptable. I've got a gillion "film look" techniques, but in camera is always better. We're doing real sound, boom to sony md so I don't care about XLR. Am I missing a need to have feature of the Z1, other than 24p? If not, that's an extra $1500 in my pocket. ...and yeah SONY doesn't get it. Their response when asked why no 24p was included with the VX2100 and PD170 was that their user base of wedding videographers were happy W/O 24p. What BS were they smoking? We were all EXPECTING 24p with those models.
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
The Z1 doesn't have 24p.
The Z1 doesn't have 24p.
TimeKoder13
Well-known member
Re: FX1 to Film. Stunning results
Yeah David I misworded my joke. I know the Z1 doesn't have 24p. That's why I don't do standup. I don't even own the Panny, but I've learned a ton from this site over the last 7 or 8 months and have sent a ton of others here for education and enlightenment.
Yeah David I misworded my joke. I know the Z1 doesn't have 24p. That's why I don't do standup. I don't even own the Panny, but I've learned a ton from this site over the last 7 or 8 months and have sent a ton of others here for education and enlightenment.