FX1 footage *can* look cool -- even filmic!

Hi all!

I should post the caveat that I really like working with the DVX and I dig this community. I'm not trying to push the DVX out the window; it's a great cam and it's here to stay, thank goodness. One thing I do want to talk about is the Sony FX1, though -- it's a pretty kickin' camera and it gives you a lot of visual options.

Barry always says filmic HD isn't an option right now, and he's pretty much right -- no 24P option in our price range. Besides 24P, though, what looks "filmic" is often subject to debate. I think what we all want at the minimum is an image that doesn't look like "plain" video; we want an image that's professional and dramatic, that has the feel of a bigger budget than we're often working with. Verrrrry few people can use a DVX and shoot footage that's truly confused with film, but what a lot of us can do is use it to create great-looking images that don't keep making us think about it as video. Well, guess what? The FX1 can be used the same way.

Barry often likes to point out that there's almost no HD distribution right now, and he's right. So let's concentrate on how the FX1 HD footage helps you make a great looking SD projects. Here are some of the things I've found to be true:

1) Working with the extra HD resolution let's you reframe and zoom in on your footage in ways you didn't know you wanted until after you're done shooting. I find this to be a big help and I suspect you would, too! Who doesn't want to crop an image a little (or a lot!) sometimes? Because you're outputting to SD at the end, you don't lose any resolution on the final product by doing this. How cool is that?

2) Native 16x9 is awesome! 'Nuff said.

3) The extra HD resolution also lets you convert to really nice 24P SD with the right product (like DVFilm). Heck, even the regular old Adobe Media Encoder did a nice job with all that extra resolution leeway. Is it as good as starting with native 24P? Nah. But it's darn close, and I've yet to find someone that could tell 24P was done in post.

Look, I'm no horn-tooting pro; like a lot of the board members, I'm a guy who's just trying to find his way and get better every day. That said, if you want to see FX1 footage, you can check out some of my work on http://www.hyperbolicfilms.com. I certainly know there's room for improvement, and I wouldn't call my work "filmic" yet (and I actually like deep depth of field much of the time), but I think you'll see some images that demonstrate the potential of the camera. Also, please remember that this footage has been compressed for the web. :)

Additionally, the audio was all recorded in camera with the MPEG layer II compression, and I think you'll have trouble finding too much fault with it, either.

Keep on lovin' the DVX -- it's sweet! But just say "no" to the FX1 haters who claim it's not usable for creative work. The cam is legit.
 
Re: FX1 footage *can* look cool -- even filmic!

The reframe and zoom in is one thing I keep forgetting about, but yes that's an excellent creative tool, and certainly something you can't do with an SD camera.
 
Re: FX1 footage *can* look cool -- even filmic!

Saw the short film on your site. (Glue was cute and nasty, lol) Did you use DVfilmmaker on that footage?
 
Re: FX1 footage *can* look cool -- even filmic!

[quote author=STORYTELLER32 link=board=sony;num=1109571583;start=0#3 date=03/02/05 at 09:28:12]Saw the short film on your site. (Glue was cute and nasty, lol) Did you use DVfilmmaker on that footage?[/quote]

LOL. Thanks.

Nope, no DVFilm Maker was used, though I do intend to try out their product. I simply converted to 24P though the regular old Adobe Media Encoder, which I know isn't the world's best converter of 24P but still did a fine job for me.
 
Re: FX1 footage *can* look cool -- even filmic!

Please post some footage when you do. I'm wondering what the footage will look like when using that plugin.
 
Thanks Hyper for your post.
For me the biggest difference between film and video is the resoltion. When I look at anything shot on the DVX - especially DVX w/ anamorphic adapter - it just looks soft, and therefore, for me, like video. When I look at footage from the fx1 I see a resoltion that is approaching what I see in the digital files of film that I use at work. Even when you take a fx1 frame and downconvert to half resoltion (540x960) you have a widescreen image that has full chroma on every pixel and square pixels to boot. The DVX has only 180 chroma pixels out of 720(luminance).
I also haven't seen proof that the camera records less dynamic range. Where are the greyscale charts that prove that there is a loss of definition in either the highlights or shadows in the fx1 that the dvx can capture? I haven't seen them. This is something that the fx1 poo-pooers say over and over but have yet to prove to me.
I've also shot about 10 tapes and have about 4 seconds that have macroblocking problems. In the one case that it was a real problem I did another take and tried to be a bit smoother on my pan. Just playback your footage and check before moving on.
I spend at least 45 hours a week looking at 35mm film that is laser scanned to computer files at ILM. To my eyes the DVX looked too soft to be truly useful. The fx1 is much, much closer. Neither has anything like the latitude of the real thing.
Keep trying!
Sam
 
Z1 seems to have it

Z1 seems to have it

Hi, i'd like to point out, that why so ever the Gamma used in the Z1E (I'm European so I use 1080i50) is getting closer and closer to what I would call a filmic look the longer I try playing around with those colour setups and all the other issues. Sony seems to want their video to look like video. So turn everything to manual and keep on tunig. It's very much like working with a factory set up DVX, don't you agree.
 
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