Fuji X-T3 released

Thanks for the sample spinscapes. How are you liking the Pocket 4K vs Fuji images? How are you liking the Crane 2 with the X-T3? Would are you using for audio?

The Pocket 4K has an undeniably better image.
However, as it has been noted the Pocket is notorious for being buggy (mine has frozen once) and so therefore is not dependable as the principal camera without sufficient (and quickly available) backup. I do know that a poster on EOSHD had issues with two Fuji XT3's, however, this hasn't been my experience and I have found it completely dependable.

The Crane 2 and the X-T3 are pretty much the perfect combo. More than any other camera I've used I can get it properly (and perfectly) balance in less than a minute. The Fuji obviously has decent-to-good autofocus and when paired with an IS lens (as discussed previously) really sorts out the small micro-jitters you still encounter on occasion with a gimbal. Although if you are shooting in F-Log do note that the minimum ISO is 640 so you will need a strong 4-6 stop ND filter when shooting outside on a sunny day.

The Crane 2 and the X-T3 are also a reasonable size to be taking around through the 2 or so hours of formal photos that we tend to have over here in Australia between the ceremony and reception. We have bigger gimbals but they kind of defeat the purpose, primarily because they exhaust the user on what is usually a 12+ hour day.

I consider the X-T3 as my replacement for Samsung NX1. It does everything the Samsung did, just a little bit better. Principally, though, the 50p in UHD is excellent and I don't get the weird banding that I was getting in the sky from the NX1, presumably because of the bitrate.

In regard to the audio we have several solutions. Please note that we had real issues with the audio for Carlo and Emily's wedding at both the ceremony and at the reception.
At the ceremony we were faced with our dreaded nightmare - a wedding in the park with the officiant bringing her mic/speaker combo that had no way to get a clean out. As the microphone was held we couldn't even lapel to the stand.
So the audio of the first speaker was basically a Rode Videomic Pro + recording into a Tascam DR10L from about 5 metres away. There was also a second speaker, who we had put a lapel and Rodelink system on, however, talent doing what talent does best, he had somehow managed to disconnect the lapel despite there being a locking mechanism to avoid this.
The reception was at a footy club and they used an inhouse microphone with the roof speakers. Not only did the staff have no idea where any access point for the system might be but the microphone produced some of the worst tinny reverb that I've heard.
We ended up lapelling the two fathers with Rodelink's and using our Rode NTG3 straight into our recorder from the floor. An inelegant solution, and we are in the process of purchasing many more Tascam DR10L's to counter this problem in the future.

For the groom's mic I had a Sennheiser AVX system with Sanken COS-11D recording into a Zoom F4. This is a pretty killer combination. The only disappointing aspect of the Sennheiser AVX system is that the latency makes it unusable as a live setup. Whereas the Rodelink system works perfectly live through speakers.

For the bride we just used the same mic but we dual recorded to two tracks on the Zoom F4 and simply increased the amplification to the second channel.
 
Its interesting. Do you have any on-line clips that you feel look superior to any of the X-T3 images on-line? So far, I have watched the Matthew Libatique directed short that was filmed with the X-T3 that looks amazing while I have not seen anything from the Pocket 4K that looks in the same league. Has anyone shot anything with the BMPCC that looks amazing? Most of the YouTube stuff I have seen from it is so so.
 
Personally, I like this one...especially the 2nd half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Md5PqFXpM

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Per usual there are dozens of reasons why other cameras may be better (or a better fit), but pure cinematic quality isn't one of them.

It's always been ARRI - RED - Blackmagic...and then pick the rest out of a hat (there are a few exceptions).
 
Personally, I like this one...especially the 2nd half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Md5PqFXpM

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Per usual there are dozens of reasons why other cameras may be better (or a better fit), but pure cinematic quality isn't one of them.

It's always been ARRI - RED - Blackmagic...and then pick the rest out of a hat (there are a few exceptions).

Thanks NorBro. Finally something that looks impressive out of the BMPCC! First thing I've seen from it that looks good. Agreed, this looks really nice.
The user stuff of reviewers looks fairly bad but this proves that in the right hands with the right post, it can produce great images.
 
I've been shooting with the p4k for a bit more than a month, and nothing that I've done so far looks better than what I was getting before with my Sonys (a7S and RX100IV). But the camera does deliver a clearly better image, it's my post work that's not up to par yet: I've moved to Resolve and I'm still nowhere as good at tweaking colors there as I was on Premiere+Colorista+Looks. Hopefully soon...

In case anybody is interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hygTu1wESKM
 
This is a bit off topic but I thought some fellow DVXers who are shooting with the XT-3 would know what's happening here?

This is a screen shot from a still I took with the XT-3. It's big but I wanted to post it at actual size. Trying to decide if I should sell the Canon 80D I use for stills. The XT-3 RAW images overall, look good but upon close examination, when viewed at 100%, the images are very aliased?
It's like they are painted onto a canvas, I can see the pattern of the canvas shining through. It's like looking through a screen door. Am I doing something wrong? I'm on an old version of Lightroom but this version handles .DNG
files fine so I downloaded the latest build of Adobe DNG Convertor 11.1.0.112. I convert the .RAF files to .DNG and load them into Lightroom. They behave fine, just appears to be pretty aliased? The video from the camera, so far, looks fine, I am just seeing this on stills. Could this be a bug or ?
This is a screen cap from Preview on a new 2017 5K iMac screen. The raw files from XT-3 are larger than my 5K resolution screen but when viewed at actual size, they should look smooth like my Canon RAW files look, not aliased like this. This same aliasing is also visible in Lightroom viewing the .DNGs so
it's not a .JPG output issue?

Ideas? Strategies? I am doing a stock shoot tomorrow but it looks as if I will have to bring the 80D to shoot stills? It's not as visible here after posting (probably since posting here compresses and smooths out the edges a little?) as it is on my 5K iMac screen at full resolution but the aliasing is bad, very noticeable. You probably can't even see it on a phone screen but for stock, I need them super clean at full resolution obviously.

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Adobe is generally not the best at developing Fuji RAW files, especially old versions of their RAW developer. Try the Fuji provided tool and see what you think.

Not sure when it will be supported, but Darktable does a really nice job for everything. Also Affinity Photo which is what I decided to buy for my XT1. Still not sure about upgrading to XT3 yet, the T1 is still doing what I need for stills, and for the little bit of video I do for my hobby my GH2's are working fine.

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ (note 20% off so I better see if I need a major upgrade or not).

Also put the card back in the camera and let the camera develop the RAW file and see what the resulting JPG looks like, the in camera process is really extremely well done! I always shoot in RAW plus JPG fine because often the jpeg is good enough for what I need.
 
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Adobe is generally not the best at developing Fuji RAW files, especially old versions of their RAW developer. Try the Fuji provided tool and see what you think.

Not sure when it will be supported, but Darktable does a really nice job for everything. Also Affinity Photo which is what I decided to buy for my XT1. Still not sure about upgrading to XT3 yet, the T1 is still doing what I need for stills, and for the little bit of video I do for my hobby my GH2's are working fine.

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ (note 20% off so I better see if I need a major upgrade or not).

Also put the card back in the camera and let the camera develop the RAW file and see what the resulting JPG looks like, the in camera process is really extremely well done! I always shoot in RAW plus JPG fine because often the jpeg is good enough for what I need.

Good options and ideas, thanks Greg. I'll try some of these and will report back. I just shot some test video and it looks great in 4K on my 5K screen, the problem is just on the stills it seems. I'll try shooting some JPEGs too although I much prefer RAW as it lets you push bad exposure so much farther, a thing that happens when shooting other boats off of a moving boat, which is what I have been doing. Lighting on the ocean changes literally every second you shoot. Very dark water, nuclear sunlight, constant movement and position relative to the sun, it's a wonder I can get any of them exposed correctly.
 
This is a bit off topic but I thought some fellow DVXers who are shooting with the XT-3 would know what's happening here?

This is a screen shot from a still I took with the XT-3. It's big but I wanted to post it at actual size. Trying to decide if I should sell the Canon 80D I use for stills. The XT-3 RAW images overall, look good but upon close examination, when viewed at 100%, the images are very aliased?
It's like they are painted onto a canvas, I can see the pattern of the canvas shining through. It's like looking through a screen door. Am I doing something wrong? I'm on an old version of Lightroom but this version handles .DNG
files fine so I downloaded the latest build of Adobe DNG Convertor 11.1.0.112. I convert the .RAF files to .DNG and load them into Lightroom. They behave fine, just appears to be pretty aliased? The video from the camera, so far, looks fine, I am just seeing this on stills. Could this be a bug or ?
This is a screen cap from Preview on a new 2017 5K iMac screen. The raw files from XT-3 are larger than my 5K resolution screen but when viewed at actual size, they should look smooth like my Canon RAW files look, not aliased like this. This same aliasing is also visible in Lightroom viewing the .DNGs so
it's not a .JPG output issue?

Ideas? Strategies? I am doing a stock shoot tomorrow but it looks as if I will have to bring the 80D to shoot stills? It's not as visible here after posting (probably since posting here compresses and smooths out the edges a little?) as it is on my 5K iMac screen at full resolution but the aliasing is bad, very noticeable. You probably can't even see it on a phone screen but for stock, I need them super clean at full resolution obviously.

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What you are describing is the "worming" that Lightroom's sharpening does to the XT-3's raw file.

Since it doesn't have an aliasing filter like some cameras, Lightroom's sharpening tends to screw with it.

There are workarounds:

https://exploringexposure.com/blog/sharpening-fujifilm-raw-files/
 
Does the BMP4K have a 30 min. recording limit?
(For me it's a deal breaker, recording continues lectures).
 
Good options and ideas, thanks Greg. I'll try some of these and will report back. I just shot some test video and it looks great in 4K on my 5K screen, the problem is just on the stills it seems. I'll try shooting some JPEGs too although I much prefer RAW as it lets you push bad exposure so much farther, a thing that happens when shooting other boats off of a moving boat, which is what I have been doing. Lighting on the ocean changes literally every second you shoot. Very dark water, nuclear sunlight, constant movement and position relative to the sun, it's a wonder I can get any of them exposed correctly.

Along with what others have mentioned, Adobe products do not handle .RAF files well. There are Lightroom sharpening strategies to cope and a search of "fuji Lightroom worms" will send you down a rabbit hole of forum hell. But you can find some means of mitigating thru detail and radius adjustment.

But for me, I was not able to get the consistent quality from the .RAFs that I wanted (anything with foliage, very fine details, etc.) and after a spell with Iridient Developer, I moved over to Capture One Pro. I moved from Lightroom due to these IQ issues. I tried PhotoNinja and ID (some years ago now and no experience with Darktable, etc.) and they improved detail rendering significantly. I ended up at C1 due to the combination of detail rendering, color control,... felt like a more complete software.
 
While I'm here, I know the "gimbal of dominance" in this thread has been the Crane 2. I just ordered the Moza Air 2 (my first gimbal) to start working with (and learning) for a job in Feb/March.

I am really pleased with my X-T3 coming from the X-T2. I would appreciate hearing a bit about focus strategies while using the gimbal, how the X-T3 handles shifting focus from a close detail to a face, let's say (I will be filming in a large workshop environment and thinking of shots that transition from materials/product in the foreground to the artisans fabricating them just behind). I did not purchase the follow focus module but I might. (I know I could have purchased the C2 with FF for the same price - not an easy decision.)

Also curious if others have hacked motion/timelapse control with Moza products and the X-T3. Apparently, you can use the included Panasonic cable to some effect. The promise of full pending full support is a reason I went with the Air 2.
 
CaptureOne was also one of my choices to buy, Affinity just won out for reasons I don't remember (some of which may have been price). FujiXforums members get a 10% off of CaptureOne.
 
Personally, I like this one...especially the 2nd half:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Md5PqFXpM

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Per usual there are dozens of reasons why other cameras may be better (or a better fit), but pure cinematic quality isn't one of them.

It's always been ARRI - RED - Blackmagic...and then pick the rest out of a hat (there are a few exceptions).

Over and over again I see the same thing. This just confirms it once again. I feel the BM cams produce "colorized" images. The dreaded teal and orange palette. BMP4K is no exception. The skin tones lacks nuance. It's all a wash of a single color. Skin tones are repeatedly yellow/bronze (no pale aspects, magenta, etc.). People feel wooden. No nuances in the cheeks, etc. When one attempts to move to another color or balance it out and pull up seperation, the whole palette of the face washes to that color (magenta red in the 2nd image for example). It's not just artistic intention or poor grading. I feel color information is lacking to properly seperate the values. It's an issue.

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For you fence sitters, as of this morning, Fuji is offering instant rebates of:

$100.00 off the XT-3 body https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._16588509_x_t3_mirrorless_digital_camera.html
$200.00 off the XT-3 body and the 18-55mm f/2.8-4.0 OIS lens kit https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1444007-REG/fujifilm_x_t3_mirrorless_digital_camera.html
$200.00 off the XT-3 body, 18-55mm f/2.8-4.0 OIS lens and the Battery Grip https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1434197-REG/fujifilm_x_t3_mirrorless_digital_camera.html

If you've been on the fence, this is the universe telling you to pull the trigger, it's a GREAT camera. Not perfect but amazingly good for the money and it punches way above it's weight class.
 
Over and over again I see the same thing. This just confirms it once again. I feel the BM cams produce "colorized" images.

I won't debate any of it because I don't care enough, but for every professional eye - or maybe particular eye - there are 10 million others whom won't see it.

At some point there is really no point in nitpicking; that video contains beautiful images.
 
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