FSI to Release 5,000 Nit Mastering Monitor this Fall

[rob norton]

I change settings all the time. Typically full brightness outside, maybe a little less at dusk. Somewhere between full brightness and midway for daytime interiors with windows. Somewhere between midway and probably 10% from minimum for dimly lit evening interiors.

The monitor is touchscreen (Desview R6) and has an absolutely wonderful feature where you simply swipe up and down on the left half of the screen to adjust brightness. I use it all the time, including to dim the monitor to save battery during breaks in shooting.

Crucially, I don't rely on the look of the monitor to judge exposure but toggle false color on and off. It has both Arri and "spectrum" false color. So, dimming the brightness up and down has no bearing on my exposure judgement

Thanks. The swiping sounds like a great feature.

I'm looking for a good 5 inch monitor but the options in that space leave a lot to be desired. The smallhd 503 seems like the best choice but a lot of their stuff feels like it could explode at any second. I'm sure I would regret not going with a touch screen too. I could try your desview r6 but would prefer SDI.

I don't understand why the older monitor companies don't put out something amazing (e.g. TV logic).

 

[agcohn]

Just as your claim about grading films for theatrical distribution to 1,000 nits was misleading, so is your contention that Dolby Cinema isn't HDR; and it demonstrates your complete lack of understanding about what HDR is. HDR encompasses both brighter highlights as well as deeper blacks. HDR is about a greater range of luminance, not increased overall brightness. That is the reason Ultra HD Premium certification of displays has different standards: 1,000 nits with a black level of less than 0.05 nits (LCD) and 540 nits with a black level of less than 0.0005 nits (OLED). My iPhone 7 is 700 nits but it isn't HDR! APL of both HDR and SDR should be comparable, but in practice, the APL of HDR is not infrequently lower than SDR. Dolby Cinema delivers 500X the contrast ratio and double the brightness of traditional movie theaters.

Dolby Cinema is not HDR, plain and simple. The industry literally calls in EDR, because it is not HDR. They can’t call it HDR, because it doesn’t have more dynamic range than SDR R709. It has more range than P3, thus the term EDR.

 

[agcohn]

Quit with your disinformation campaign, already! And while you're at it, please inform readers that you were grossly mistaken about films being graded with a hard clip at 998 nits for theatrical distribution. Your comedic remarks only make you look foolish!

I’m sorry, but the company I work for is involved in the delivery of dozens of motion pictures every year for both HDR (Dolby Vision, HDR-10) and EDR (Dolby Cinema / DV108). I’m talking about major studio films. I’m not a colorist, but I do know just a little of what I’m talking about.

There is no theatrical HDR delivery format. Certainly nothing even approaching1000 or even 998 nits of brightness. No theatrical format can get anywhere near that bright. HDR is currently only on glass, TV, however you want to call It.

 

[ahalpert]

Thanks. The swiping sounds like a great feature.

I'm looking for a good 5 inch monitor but the options in that space leave a lot to be desired. The smallhd 503 seems like the best choice but a lot of their stuff feels like it could explode at any second. I'm sure I would regret not going with a touch screen too. I could try your desview r6 but would prefer SDI.

I don't understand why the older monitor companies don't put out something amazing (e.g. TV logic).

Desview makes the R7S with SDI but it's 7" and only 1000 nits

my R6 was really cheap (about $200). I wouldn't expect it to explode. But maybe collapse . I think the way I packed it in my gimbal bag initially caused some strain/bend on the rear plate, and within a couple months I noticed that 2 of the 4 screws holding the back plate on had fallen out. The company sent me a diagram showing the model of screw I need, but I can't find the exact type online (PB2.3*6mm). I still need to take it in to my local hardware store.

But at $200 - if it lasts me 1 or 2 years, I would gladly replace it. I love it and it's packed with features and customizability.

Incidentally, I bought it in part because it has a light sensor for automatically adjusting screen brightness. But I ended up hating that. First of all, it drives me crazy for the brightness to shift during recording. But also, it just shifts too quickly and responds too quickly to changing light conditions. So I turned off that feature and just manually control brightness, which is working out really well.

I bought the desview to replace my Ikan D7 which took a knock and had its HDMI port dislodged. It lasted me about 8 years (and still works as an SDI monitor), but considering that I had to replace it because it physically broke, I'm not too concerned about the build quality of my new monitor that cost 20% of the Ikan and does so much more

 

[DLD]

I’m sorry, but the company I work for is involved in the delivery of dozens of motion pictures every year for both HDR (Dolby Vision, HDR-10) and EDR (Dolby Cinema / DV108). I’m talking about major studio films. I’m not a colorist, but I do know just a little of what I’m talking about.

There is no theatrical HDR delivery format. Certainly nothing even approaching1000 or even 998 nits of brightness. No theatrical format can get anywhere near that bright. HDR is currently only on glass, TV, however you want to call It.

The poster you're responding to has a way with words. Which can be a problem.

PS. It's impossible to get 1000 nits in a movie theater, unless the projectors are close to the screen. At some future point, if/when theaters install the micro LED screens, 1000 nits may become the norm but the current generation is far too expensive for that upgrade.

 

[rob norton]

Desview makes the R7S with SDI but it's 7" and only 1000 nits

my R6 was really cheap (about $200). I wouldn't expect it to explode. But maybe collapse . I think the way I packed it in my gimbal bag initially caused some strain/bend on the rear plate, and within a couple months I noticed that 2 of the 4 screws holding the back plate on had fallen out. The company sent me a diagram showing the model of screw I need, but I can't find the exact type online (PB2.3*6mm). I still need to take it in to my local hardware store.

But at $200 - if it lasts me 1 or 2 years, I would gladly replace it. I love it and it's packed with features and customizability.

Incidentally, I bought it in part because it has a light sensor for automatically adjusting screen brightness. But I ended up hating that. First of all, it drives me crazy for the brightness to shift during recording. But also, it just shifts too quickly and responds too quickly to changing light conditions. So I turned off that feature and just manually control brightness, which is working out really well.

I bought the desview to replace my Ikan D7 which took a knock and had its HDMI port dislodged. It lasted me about 8 years (and still works as an SDI monitor), but considering that I had to replace it because it physically broke, I'm not too concerned about the build quality of my new monitor that cost 20% of the Ikan and does so much more

Thanks Abe. It looks like a pretty good deal. It's close but even that HDMI coming out of the left side would drive me nuts. I'd rather a deeper footprint, not a wider one. I don't really like fans either.

 

[Thomas Smet]

Quit with your disinformation campaign, already! And while you're at it, please inform readers that you were grossly mistaken about films being graded with a hard clip at 998 nits for theatrical distribution. Your comedic remarks only make you look foolish!

You have been reported again. I suggest you find a way to communicate respectfully.

 

[agcohn]

You have been reported again. I suggest you find a way to communicate respectfully.

Apologies to everyone in this thread about my involvement in the above mentioned argument. I honestly did not intend to derail this thread.

 

[ozmorphasis]

Apologies to everyone in this thread about my involvement in the above mentioned argument. I honestly did not intend to derail this thread.

FWIW, I don't see any issues with your posts above. They are informative and respectful, which is (much!) more than I can say for the OP.