FS700 Settings for Cine Gamma 1 and 4

Gene Sung

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About to do some tests shots on the FS700. The Cine Gammas I seem to like the most is number 1, as it seems to be the flattest of all the Cinegammas. #4 seems nice as well, maybe not as flat as #1.

I believe Frank G. stated in another post to Knee all the way up and set slope at 0 for Cinegamma #4

I have a few quick questions

1) I was wondering on Gamma #1, what do you recommend for the Knee and slope?

2) Is there any other settings you guys would recommend for #1 and #4? What about things like Black Levels, etc....

3) I've heard someone recommend Cinegamma #4 for daylight and #1 for low light. What is that?

Thanks in advance
 
1) Basically knee off: 105, slope 0. Then CG1 rolls of very well when the superwhites are brought back to 100 correctly.

2) I use CG1 with black level -1. I tried various black levels and I see no benefit in a positive blacklevel when I later bring back the black value down to 0 anyway. The final results were the same, so because it´s 8 bit I fill the most of the 255 values with information. I think you can even go down to -3. Look at a waveform and test it for yourself.

3) Both Gammas have the same dynamic range. CG1 has more stops in the shadows below middle grey while CG4 sacrifices shadow detail but gets more detail in the highlights.
http://provideocoalition.com/index....ras_sony_fs700_dynamic_range_presentation/P1/

I don´t like CG4. More Highlight detail is great but it clearly rolls off with a hue shift to magenta and it´s too noisy for my taste.
 
Thanks for the response Felix. Just out of curiosity, what do you set Detail at? I've heard the lower the detail, the smoother the motion is in 24p because the edges in the image are softer (which makes some sense). Since some people make a big deal out of the smoothness of the Sony 24p, I'm thinking if a lower detail will help the motion in 24p, I might use it.

Plus, the FS cameras seem to very, very clean and sharp (at least for my tastes) which might give it a video / sterile feel. Seems like a lower detail might help in making the footage more organic???

Any other tips to help with the Organic-ness of an image? Seems like the Cinegammas do a lot right off the bat.
 
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I tried out detail from -5 to +5 (or was it +-7?) and the difference is very small. I left it at 0 for the moment.
And I don´t see more 24p strobing from it than from a Canon DSLR or a GH2. It always looks stuttering on a 60 hz TFT but once it´s on bluray (24p) or DVD (PAL Speedup to 25p) it´s very smooth. When panning very slowly I almost find it too smooth.
 
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