FS7: FS7 successor (rumours/expectations)

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It's coming to almost exactly 2 years after FS7II release and 4 years after FS7 release.
When do you reckon we can expect a new camera that will replace FS7's?
We know that it's a money making machine for Sony but at the same time after releasing A7SIII with rumoured 10bit they may have to milk money from current FS7 owners with some new specs as well.

Look at this:
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-a7siii-to-be-announced-at-ibc-2018-on-sept-14/
Pro camcorder is expected to be announced on 14th of September. Could it be FS7 successor?
 
For me an updated sensor, whether 6K to a nice 4K or not. Dual native ISO
Internal 4K 120p even buffered
dual intelligent hot shoes
If possible but not necessary some form of internal raw, SRL (sony raw light) like CRL (canon raw light). Will the latter happen? I'm not holding my breathe.
 
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Doug Jensen said:
What would you like to see on an FS7 successor?
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first correct the 'errors' that FW could probably sort.. no Id like this in my FS7 for $500 or even $1000

allow 4 track audio each XLR at two levels
record to two cards
cache record remembered after u exit HFR
audio on HFR
viewfinder on longer cable
viewfinder chimney made for adults
sdi not downgraded when u use HDMI
hfr less soft
S+Q -> 4k not a menu dig
digital punch in button
the fatter codec

then upgrades
500 fps
a bit smaller
raw output/internal
body flipped upside down to make the thing properly mountable on a tripod!

to make a better FS7 if needs to be an F5 killer which is obviously a problem
 
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morgan_moore said:
to make a better FS7 if needs to be an F5 killer which is obviously a problem
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Pretty much. I'd like to see:

- Timecode built into the body
- Internal raw/XOCN, or raw/XOCN direct from the camera body (without an external box hanging off the back)
- The phase-detection autofocus (with face-detect, and eye-AF) from the A6500/A7RIII built-in for e-mount glass
- XAVC Class480 available for up to 60fps would be great too.
 
FS7 was announced at IBC, so there's a fair chance its successor will be too. If the article above is correct, and a Pro camera is to be announced on Sept 14th, my guess is it will be an F series camera and not FS. The F55 was announced in 2012 so it's about due an overhaul. Hope I'm wrong and a new FS7 series camera is announced though.
 
I would like to see a 2K 12 bit 4:4:4 ~200mbps codec up to atleast 50p. And a sensor that could handle slog3. Dual ISO 800 and 3200 would be so great. Three xlr inputs. LUT support and sound in all recording modes. Full readout 120p (fine with 10bit 4:2:2). If they improve native viewfinder/lcd resolution and punch in res.

Full frame would also be interesting? Maybe it needs to be 6k for a decent s35 crop then?
 
I love the FS7II so much that there’s hardly anything that could persuade me to upgrade right now. I do wish however that they would come out with a version that had a much high resolution LCD screen and a 4K image that’s downscale to 4K to give a little sharper image. I also wish that the extra two channels of audio had their own dials on the camera body and that you could use any ISO and white balance you wanted in CINE EI mode. Give me those things plus sharper high frame rates, the ability to use S-Gamut3.Cine with Slog2 and audio at high frame rates and man, you’d have the near perfect camera; for me at least.

Oh, and internal raw would be bad to the bone, but in reality not necessary. The other things though, those would seriously help my day to day work.
 
legrevedotcom said:
Imagine a world where they announced premium firmware upgrades yielding better options to existing products instead :(
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Sony have done this for the F5/55 in spades .. up to V9.. you could argue they were not ready to be for sale V1.. but they have released huge improvements.. esp the 4K in the F5.. although this was forced upon them to some extent !.. but nonetheless those of us with that camera have had a great run of firmware updates over 5 years or so..
 
Hey Paul, I wish I had time to post some footage because the camera looks great. How did your sailing go? Get some nice footage?
 
morgan_moore said:
to make a better FS7 if needs to be an F5 killer which is obviously a problem
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But the F5 and F55 are both due to get successors as well. I can see an S35 version of the VENICE replacing the F55 and maybe they’ll let the FS line take the F5’s place... I also think whatever is replacing the F55 is gonna get e-mount... so the whole video line-up will merge a bit...
 
The biggest advances Sony could make are:
1- A new color system for Cine EI that allowed white balancing, Kelvin and Green/Magenta adjustments
2- Add the XAVC 480 Codec
3- Add Sgamut Cine in Custom & Slog2
4- Change Menus so the viewfinder would display the name of the LUT in VF ( this would be easy)
5- Sharper VF
6 - phase detection auto focus
 
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