FS7: FS7 Custom Paint Menu Help

Joshua Milligan

Joshua Milligan

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Hey friends, I have an event I have to shoot for a home building company that I won’t be editing myself. I typically edit all my work, so I pretty much live in CineEI mode. The company instead wants me to shoot in a Custom profile because they don’t want to grade log footage. They want some wiggle room for color, but not quite anything like log.

I’ve read every post on this forum I could find about a custom profile on the FS7 (I have a MKII) that matches Sony Alpha cameras in non-log. This is important to me because I’m needing to use my A7III and A7RIII as B-cams during this shoot. I came across a few posts that suggested you could use Hypergamma 2 on the FS7 and Cine2 on the Sony mirrorless cameras to get a close match. What I don’t understand though is those posts don’t say what Color Mode the Alpha cams should be in when using Cine2 (I’m assuming Cinema). Those posts also don’t mention anything else about the Paint Menus on the FS7. I feel kinda lost because I don’t know what else to set on the FS7 besides literally just Hypergamma 2. There’s like 10 million other options to select, none of which make sense to me coming from CineEI mode where everything was much simpler when choosing a picture profile.

Can anyone help me figure out what I can set my settings to so these cameras will match relatively close? I would much appreciate it!
 
Also, all of my cameras have the new Hybrid Log Gamma profiles. Perhaps those could be an option for matching all three without using log, but still keeping a good image that can be tweaked as needed?
 
I would find out what exactly is their idea of "tweaking" is... would seem to suit one of the Hyper Gamma,s 3 our 4 on the f7s.. the A7III I,d play safe and stick to PP4..REC709.. detail -7.. only so much 8 bit tweaking ..
 
I'd use custom mode for the FS7 in Slog2 or slog3 and the same for the A7
white balance all camera's

And now you have footage that almost doesn't need to be graded.
 
I took the time to set up settings on my FS5 and A7RIII to match FS7 in Cine EI mode with LUT applied. This was well spent time when shooting multi camera shoots.
 
Try these settings. The FS7 matrix is my standard matrix for everything but saturation and black level tend to change for the scene and I sometimes go to -8 or -9 on phase.
These seemed like a pretty good match to me. Yellow was the hardest color to match though . Other settings on the A7 were default.
I haven't played with HLG on the A7 yet.

Contrary to the impression most people give , there's always some wiggle room in post from Custom WYSIWG as long as your in the ballpark.


A7iii
Cine 4
Color - Pro
Color Depth Y-2
Detail - 5 to -7

FS7 Custom
HG7
Matrix ON
user Matrix ON
STD Matrix
saturation (level) to taste probably +2 or more
black Level - to taste but somewhere around - 5 or lower
phase -7

Matrix settings
R-G + 64
R-B - 10
G-R + 5
G-B 0
B-R - 5
B-G - 21
 
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