For anyone who ever worked with an ad agency or freelanced

Ya i actually got sent that video earlier. I work for online magazines and they have monthly budgets. Im suppose to be payed a certain amount for each video but if they pay other people or shell out money for something else. I usally get with what ever is left at end of month. So the promised 50 dollars a video might turn into 20 bucks a video.
 
Good stuff. :) That was really clever.

What's sad though. I've actually said a lot of those things, at restaurants and shops, in real life.
 
And if you haven't had the pleasure of working for an agency, this is *exactly* what you're in for. That was very well done and exactly, exactly spot-on.
 
very nice.
It's always amazed me how so many can't wait to lose your respect in the beginning stages of a relationship.
 
What I find sad is that I have heard at least two of the lines in the last two weeks. I dont stand for any bs however. :beer:
 
Very funny and well done. Sadly, it struck a bit of a nerve with me. I have heard those 'opportunity' stories and conceded on too many occasions. I have never been afraid of free work for a worthy cause but come on "This is a test, If my husband likes it, we'll roll the difference into the next one"... Why does it work in this industry? It would never work in virtually any other industry.


Jason
 
Barry_Green said:
And if you haven't had the pleasure of working for an agency, this is *exactly* what you're in for. That was very well done and exactly, exactly spot-on.
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Haha. Coming from the agency side, I saw that as our clients talking to us. Just shows you which way the crap flows. Wal-Mart was notorious for wanting vendors to charge them less as time went on. Because you can outsource crew and post to China, dontchaknow.
 
Amazing. The really sad thing is, that this is prevalent even when working with an agency. While I, personally, don't have to endure this kind of treatment, I certainly have sat in on meetings where my boss does! It sucks.. I wish we could start every meeting by showing the client this video!
 
Glad to see others have danced with agencies. This thing should be required course material for college students in advertising.
 
JasonFox said:
Haha. Coming from the agency side, I saw that as our clients talking to us. Just shows you which way the crap flows.
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Absolutely, the crap flows from the client to the vendor. For post houses this means get prepared for the agency to take a giant dump in your lap. Perhaps the fresh spot on the reel will take away the foul odor emanating from the backside of the agency.
 
Sure this sucks, but our industry brings it upon itself in a lot of ways. Firstly we don't hand our clients a menu with prices. We avoid giving dayrates and hourly rates. Restaurants don't ask what their patrons have budgeted, WE DO. We play the game as much as they do. Do a search of "what to charge" on this forum the first reply always starts with "it depends..."

I agree that it DOES depend, but buyers and clients expect us to give a high price and bargain down. And you expect it too. If a potential client agreed to the first price that you threw out there, then you'd probably curse yourself for quoting too low. If a client said "keep it under $60k" then we'd charge $59,576.99 .

The video is hilarious, and very true. But if we're having the exact same kinds of reactions from clients spanning several industries and backgrounds we have to assume that these are symptoms of a problem in OUR industry not theirs.

But we're still allowed to vent a little.
 
milksac said:
Absolutely, the crap flows from the client to the vendor. For post houses this means get prepared for the agency to take a giant dump in your lap. Perhaps the fresh spot on the reel will take away the foul odor emanating from the backside of the agency.
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I always love the "this'll look good on your reel, so do it for $1.99" plea. It's one thing to throw in a little extra on something cool, but people still have bills to pay. I'll call in favors on pro bono stuff, but I avoid squeezing for other projects. If you don't want to pay for a million dollar spot, don't approve a million dollar spot.
 
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