Footage/Grabs with Letus35 Flip & indiFOCUS

Same NON ADAPTER clip as before with the Detail Level at 0

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LETUS35 FE Grab

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This should be a fairer comparison between Letus and Non Letus.


PS: colors/framing/light will be different because I had to recreate the setup and start a new FCP session for the non Letus grab... The test is for grain and sharpness only
 
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This post's original grabs also seem to be scaled up from the original size.

Most of the problem seems to be noise, and not grain, from either adjusting the image in Photoshop or the gain on the camera. Plus they are jpegs, yet another level of compression.

Any remaining softness that can be seen after considering all that is probably just focus issues, back and front.
 
The Letus washes out some contrast too. Try setting the master pedestal lower (maybe -10 or so) and the color saturation higher (maybe +3), and you should be able to match the color and contrast of the DVX shot while retaining the shallow DOF of the Letus shot.
 
"why do people keep posting images of the adapter off?"

In my case it was because there was some question as to how much the Letus35 FE softens up an image.

the only way to tell that is an on/off test so you can make up your own mind.
Kip
 
Is it just me or shouldn't the Letus now have its own sub-forum in DVXUSER??? It seems like this would help a lot of people.

Mr. Green?

Jgastelb
 
Brandon Rice said:
I've never really been a fan of the 35mm adapter look.
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I just never have liked the look very much... there are exceptions to the rule... Jack's short, ODD Squad, and Rekindled looked gorgeous with use of the 35mm adapter, and also Snodart's Cache... but most films I see using it, I don't like. I prefer the stock lens... I do not think it looks Soap Operaish at all, have you seen Soap Operas recently? I don't even think they shoot 24P.
 
Brandon Rice said:
I just never have liked the look very much... there are exceptions to the rule... Jack's short, ODD Squad, and Rekindled looked gorgeous with use of the 35mm adapter, and also Snodart's Cache... but most films I see using it, I don't like. I prefer the stock lens... I do not think it looks Soap Operaish at all, have you seen Soap Operas recently? I don't even think they shoot 24P.
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Try getting shallow DOF in a tiny room.


EDIT: Sorry! Not trying to be a jerk or anything but... Whenever I see a short and you see deep focus in every single shot it screams short lens to me. I know there are workarounds to this i.e. zoom in and all of that but it's never the same to my eyes. Of course, there are films that employ deep focus with great success (Citizen Kane). But, those are exceptions for the most part. In general, we associate the selective focus with a more pro camera thus the need/want of an adapter.
 
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it really depends on what kind of films you want to make, take star wars for example, the majority of the shots are quite deep. Really depends on the style and look you are going for.

personally i just love the softness of the image. But at the same time i wish i could stop the adapter down enough to get deep focus, but in that case, just take the adapter off, lower the color, and lower the detail.

to each his own, no right or wrong way, just depends on the look you want.
 
I think Brandon Rice has been disappointed because of his experience with the Brevis. I know because I purchased his and was extremely disappointed then I went ahead and purchased a Go35 and will NEVER go back to shooting regular DV I don't care what the situation is.......

I will occasionally have to shoot something DV but the business and money opportunities the Go35 have gotten me are incredible, people really love eye candy, and good acting and sound with proper lighting just entertain's the eyes.......
 
Ill Eagle said:
I think Brandon Rice has been disappointed because of his experience with the Brevis. I know because I purchased his and was extremely disappointed then I went ahead and purchased a Go35 and will NEVER go back to shooting regular DV I don't care what the situation is.......
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THat may be the case... I didn't have much luck with that... though others have gotten good results... also, I just prefer a sharper image in general, and I don't mind a deep depth of field either...
 
I'm actually a fan of a little grain and depending on the feel of the movie, a lot of grain isn't bad either.

To me a 35mm adapter helps give the look of film (maybe 16mm-ish), so also in that regard I like it. But it doesn't mean it will work for every project or every person's taste.
 
jgastelb said:
Brandon,
If you're getting the results you want then that's all that matters in the end.
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precisely... which is why if you like a 35 adapter... go for it! :thumbsup:
 
Brandon Rice said:
precisely... which is why if you like a 35 adapter... go for it! :thumbsup:
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Out of curiosity... what v detail settings do you normally use in native cam? Or, do you leave them at 0?

Jgsatelb
 
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