Firestore? What? Keeeding me?

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brianluce

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Anyone besides me apprehensive about trusting our precious footage to firestore? I mean, what if it blows up or something....
 
Their track record is excellent. Their build quality above board and proven. We feel that is a solution for long form interviews and events.

Hope that helps,

Jan
 
Well, I trust the data in my computers to hard drives. My laptop bounces all over the place, but the HD works fine. I'd worry more about getting the inevitable dropouts on a tape. No storage medium is perfect, but as Jan said, the Firestores have a solid track record. I'm sure P2 is an order of magnitude more reliable, but I'd consider a Firestore a good balance of price, capacity, and performance.
 
My concern is that it would have to be at least 180GBs to be truly usefull in 1080i. I don't know what capacities are offered but two hours seems minimum for the intended use.
 
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brianluce said:
Anyone besides me apprehensive about trusting our precious footage to firestore? I mean, what if it blows up or something....
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what is this, a cult? Love always. I've got somtin' a brewin' for yall round the corner. Are you ready for the truth?
 
shoot in 720p until storage and P2 prices drop over time. 720p is still 50% better than DV. I've heard great things about Firestore and its seems like the best and only real alternative/compliment to P2 today. I have not used Firestore myself but without that or P2, the only real clunky solution is having a powerbook with a live capture solution/editor--which is not good.

I would image that by the time HVX200 is in fully shipping in December, Firestore will add a HVX compatible solution in Spring (March 2006 from what I hear) with increased storage than the 80GB they have today. They announced this in Holland but the storage capacity was TBD if I recall. I think it would be probable for a 80/160 GB solutions.
 
I have had some problems with Firestore. I have used them for long form stuff, around a couple hundred hours worth. Most of the time worked fine but have had problems where it looked like everything was fine but files were corrupted. Also had several units go down on me, and not in a good way.
Then again I wont be using an HVX for the long form stuff. For me P2, with offline offloading, rules.
 
leofish said:
720p is still 50% better than DV.
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Not exactly -- 720p is almost THREE TIMES better than DV. Sure 720 is 50% more than 480, but that discounts that it's also twice as many pixels wide as DV. A 720p frame has about 922,000 pixels in it; a DV frame has about 345,000 pixels. That's an increase of about 2.7 times as much (a whole lot more than just 50% more!)
 
But isnt DVCPROHD 720p = 960*720 in res. that gives us 691000 pixels. Thats exactly twice the res of NTSC DV.

Of course it has more chroma 480*720 = 345600 compared to 180*480 = 86400 wich make it exactly 4 times better.

So if you put them togheter you should get 3 times as better picture.


P.S.

if we used the arguments the HVX should in 1080P mode beat the Varicam with

chroma 691200 vs 345600 (2X)
res 1382400 vs 691000 (2X)

;)
 
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