Firestore Bundle?

Pascal Parvex

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A 4 GB P2 card costs 600$. 600$ for 4 minutes recording time. So I'd rather spend three times the money to get 25 times the recording time. So, are there any bundles announced?
 
Firestores aren't made by Panasonic, so they probably wouldn't bundle it with the camera. Any bundling would probably come from the retailers themselves. Probably still early because the Firestores won't be released for several months yet.

You may also want to keep an eye on the Cine Porter. Competition is always good for us consumers.
 
I've heard that Firestore for HVX should be out around March/April timeframe. I recall a spring deliverly (Barry would know the general timeframe).

And, yes, I'm going with Firestore for recording and budget reasons and then add P2 later on...
 
Yes, but it would involve being tethered to a laptop or desktop computer.

Or, shoot in DV mode... you can get an hour of footage on the DV tape or on two 8gb cards...

FireStore is due out in March. I wouldn't be surprised to see bundles either.
 
Barry_Green said:
you can get an hour of footage on the DV tape

Barry, is the HVX as particular about 60-min. (maximum) tapes as the DVX is? Can you use 80-min. tapes in the HVX's transport or does Panny advise against that as it does with the DVX?
 
Ok so what would be the most inconvenient (or impossible) thing about this setup:

Lets say we are shooting a wedding since that seems to be the most demanding situation storage wise. We have one HVX200, 4 4gb P2 Cards, and a laptop. There is a cineamatographer and a runner. Now the camera can hold 2 P2 cards so when the first is full the runner takes it out and replaces it with an empty one, offloads the full one to the laptop and repeats the process ad infinitum.

Besides the incovenience of having an extra person running around is there any other problems with this scenario?

Thanks!

-Justin O'Neill
www.podsafeaudio.com
 
I have talked to my dealer who went to LA. According to him, the FS-100 will only be sold by Panasonic. He is a Firestore dealer also, but Panasonic is going to control the FS-100 distribution.
 
obendega said:
Ok so what would be the most inconvenient (or impossible) thing about this setup:

Lets say we are shooting a wedding since that seems to be the most demanding situation storage wise. We have one HVX200, 4 4gb P2 Cards, and a laptop. There is a cineamatographer and a runner. Now the camera can hold 2 P2 cards so when the first is full the runner takes it out and replaces it with an empty one, offloads the full one to the laptop and repeats the process ad infinitum.

Besides the incovenience of having an extra person running around is there any other problems with this scenario?

Thanks!

-Justin O'Neill
www.podsafeaudio.com

I cannot imagine a wedding needing anything more than HDV.
If they have the bucks then rent a Varicam and charge accordingly.
The P2 cardswap two step would be too much to handle at a wedding or any other long form presentation.
 
obendega said:
Besides the incovenience of having an extra person running around is there any other problems with this scenario?

Why not just output to the laptop and forget P2 for now? Instead of offloading the P2, the extra person could be holding the laptop and monitoring recording.

By the way, who is going to operate the cam? The cinematographer?
 
steindj said:
Barry, is the HVX as particular about 60-min. (maximum) tapes as the DVX is? Can you use 80-min. tapes in the HVX's transport or does Panny advise against that as it does with the DVX?
It recommends against using 80-minute tapes.
 
obendega said:
Ok so what would be the most inconvenient (or impossible) thing about this setup:

Lets say we are shooting a wedding since that seems to be the most demanding situation storage wise. We have one HVX200, 4 4gb P2 Cards, and a laptop. There is a cineamatographer and a runner. Now the camera can hold 2 P2 cards so when the first is full the runner takes it out and replaces it with an empty one, offloads the full one to the laptop and repeats the process ad infinitum.

Besides the incovenience of having an extra person running around is there any other problems with this scenario?
Could be done, I suppose, but it sounds awfully inconvenient; I'm sure a FireStore or CinePorter or just shooting on DV tape would both be preferable solutions. Having a runner/offloader during a live once-in-a-lifetime event like that seems to violate the nature of the K.I.S.S. directive. :thumbsup:
 
Yeah thats a thought steindj.

Has anyone tried wearing a laptop as a backpack?? That sounds insane. But thats life on the cutting edge.

Holding a camera with a laptop strapped to your back would be heavy...but...I don't see why it wouldn't work.

What we'll do for money...


I agree it would be inconvenient Barry! Just want to consider EVERY option before I commit. ; )

-Justin O'Neill
www.podsafeaudio.com
 
obendega said:
Has anyone tried wearing a laptop as a backpack?? That sounds insane. But thats life on the cutting edge.

Holding a camera with a laptop strapped to your back would be heavy...but...I don't see why it wouldn't work.

I think it would work, Justin, and any modified backpack sounds intriguing. The only problem would be if say, the Firewire cable came loose on the computer end and you didn't know it. (Barry can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming there are no warning alarms on the cam that go off when that happens.)
 
No, camera wouldn't know a thing about it. You'd obviously want to rig some sort of firewire-locking system in place to make sure that couldn't happen.
 
What about two 4 gig cards and a P2 Store? That would enable a photog to shoot continuously in HD for at least an hour or more depending on the format. And there would be no running around if the thing is on your belt. It's not the most cost effective way, I'm sure, but certainly the easiest right now. But 3 grand? Ouch!
 
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