Findings about the EX

INT. Back of family car
What? but moooom he started it!

lol seriously though Sarlacc, joking aside sorry we went off tangent on your thread! :)
 
ESTEBEVERDE said:
Thanks Mathew.

I don't know of any other way to test it other than to just shoot some pans.
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I JUST found and read Barry's review of this camera and makes mention of a definite loss of resolution in pans.

What REALLY disappointed me was his review of Sony's implementation of Solid State and how long it takes for the camera to switch over in modes. I never played with that, but if its true, wow, unacceptable.
 
ESTEBEVERDE and Sarlacc,

Very interesting thread (Barry's). Some of his followups go into greater detail than his initial paragraphs and I thought this might answer the question a bit better:

"720p seems like simple pixel binning to me, probably binning on the vertical. Didn't seem to be too much compelling reason to use that format so I didn't spend a lot of time on it, I figure that most EX1 users are going to go for 1080 mode (especially since they take up the same amount of bandwidth) so I only briefly forayed into 720. I did play with faster shutter speeds, and at 1/2000th I got stable detail rendering, which would seem to mean that the detail loss is simple motion blur, but -- it just doesn't feel like it adds up to just motion blur. It seems like there's something else at work that I can't quite identify. I mean, other cameras don't lose as much detail at the same shutter speeds, so I still think it's due to some aggressive detail coring and noise reduction, and with the super-short shutter speeds it probably has enough interframe intelligence to know to not attempt blending frames on such disparate images, maybe? I dunno. Like I said, I guess it's possible that it's just motion blur but everyone who watched the waveform monitor was like "whoa, what's happening here?" I'm not escalating this to the point of "ooh, this is a problem, don't buy it", but I am saying that it's curious and it seemed a lot more pronounced on the EX1 than on any other camera I've used or tested. "
 
Definitely.

I read Barry's thread very shortly after he posted it.

And, I absolutely respect Barry's opinion.

I think he is always honest and forthcoming and doesn't pull punches.

With that said, I do value others opinions and assessment s as well.

I think it's a great time for us all as technology is growing by leaps and bounds.

As long as we don't get to caught up in it but instead use it to free ourselves from restraints we can tell our stories like in no other time before.
 
Yah true enough, folk get precious about the toys they invest in but its easy to lose sight of the fact that it is the storytelling that counts and the pleasure of the creative process and actually making films.

Me and Mathew may disagree, but something everyone agrees on is that all these cams and a whole range of others give us the opportunity (though sadly not the guarantee) to produce films with an unimaginable array of options that not that long ago would have been impossible.

lol after the bickering of camera models, and juvenile provocations etc we all eventually reach this higher plateau of mental consciousness hehe
 
Motion blur. Grab any camera, especially set to 24p 1/48 shutter and pan it. What do you see: Motion blur. I'm sure everyone knows this.
For it to have more smear, or blur than normal, that would imply something in the signal processing is not fast enough to react to change.

Well, this would make sense, BUT since cranking the shutter speed and frame rate on the EX1 yeilds sharp images during movement, that sure is a telling sign that there in not an issue. What you're seeing is a camera that has real high detail; therefore, moving motion blur is more noticeable on these cameras.
Even using decent high rez Digial SLR cameras, we all know how blurry images can get just holding the camera with 1/125 or less shutter speeds. I usually want atleast 1/250 when hand held.

I noticed this several years ago when switching to HD from SD. When Barry mentioned the soft pan, he even questioned why. That night I fired up the camera under the studio lights and played with high shutter speeds and frame rate. It looked sharp during movement at these higher rates, as expected.

Also, reviewing the comparison motion blur from the HVX vs EX1 1080P file of the skateboarder panned in front of a car. Both cameras appeared to have the same motion blur.

This kind of "subjective" criticism only starts rumors.. Find a way of actually measuring a comparison. But, based on what I just mentioned, higher frame rates and shutter speeds yeilds sharp moving images pretty much throws the slow response out the window.

The EX1 is FAR from perfect. The vignetting issue is a definate problem, but Sony has fixed it on current batches. The rolling shutter artifacts are there. You have to take this in consideration when using the camera.
 
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