Loki
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Well the good thing about kick starter is, if you don't raise the total funds, you don't get any money.. so I think the world is safe from Vic's nefarious schemes..
filmman launches GOLD DIGGERS on KickStarter.com
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Well the good thing about kick starter is, if you don't raise the total funds, you don't get any money.. so I think the world is safe from Vic's nefarious schemes..
filmman
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script first
script first
It's the traditional approach. It's tried and proven.
But it's the 21st Century now and things are really changing fast. Youtube is becoming mainstream, iPhone is making inroads in worldwide exhibition.
The old formulas aren't as lucrative as in the 21th Century.
Blockbuster and Netflix are hanging on by their fingernails.
What Adam was talking about is the new trend for big movies.
First cast, then on the basis of your cast write the logline & the premise to the story, then the screenplay, and finally the artwork.
This is not easy, I know. It's how to throw a Hail Mary Pass :engel017: or take a :bath:
Thanks for the helpful comments though :smile:
script first
It's the traditional approach. It's tried and proven.
But it's the 21st Century now and things are really changing fast. Youtube is becoming mainstream, iPhone is making inroads in worldwide exhibition.
The old formulas aren't as lucrative as in the 21th Century.
Blockbuster and Netflix are hanging on by their fingernails.
What Adam was talking about is the new trend for big movies.
First cast, then on the basis of your cast write the logline & the premise to the story, then the screenplay, and finally the artwork.
This is not easy, I know. It's how to throw a Hail Mary Pass :engel017: or take a :bath:
Thanks for the helpful comments though :smile:
filmman
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A production car is part of the budget
A production car is part of the budget
It's a production car. It could also be used for tracking shots. It will add production value and help me get a distributor. It's ... it's ... uh. I don't know, I'll think of something else :violin:
Barry, they are funding cookie baking schemes :embarasse
Ok, I'll rent a car ...
A production car is part of the budget
It's a production car. It could also be used for tracking shots. It will add production value and help me get a distributor. It's ... it's ... uh. I don't know, I'll think of something else :violin:
Barry, they are funding cookie baking schemes :embarasse
Ok, I'll rent a car ...
filmman
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Look who's talkin'
Look who's talkin'
I'm not making a movie about Nefertiti :furious3: What do you mean nefarious? Are you crazy?
By the way, I like your web series. I think your first episode should have ended with the chick getting away and with the dork stalking her from behind the bushes or something. And the second webisode should have ended with the schmuck saving her from the dork. You know, just slow it down a bit -- there's still a lot of excitement to it.
Good luck with it; though it is not my cup of tea. The cinematography and the editing are good -- as always.
Thanks for pointing out that Kickstarter funding doesn't kick in until all the funds are in, in my case $25,000 smackaroos.
Look who's talkin'
I'm not making a movie about Nefertiti :furious3: What do you mean nefarious? Are you crazy?
By the way, I like your web series. I think your first episode should have ended with the chick getting away and with the dork stalking her from behind the bushes or something. And the second webisode should have ended with the schmuck saving her from the dork. You know, just slow it down a bit -- there's still a lot of excitement to it.
Good luck with it; though it is not my cup of tea. The cinematography and the editing are good -- as always.
Thanks for pointing out that Kickstarter funding doesn't kick in until all the funds are in, in my case $25,000 smackaroos.
Larry Rutledge
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The crowdfunding sites are not free money machines. You can't post a project and then sit back hoping that people drop piles of money in your lap. Just like convincing an investor to put his hard earned money in your project, equally (or possibly more so) you have to convince people that you are worth "investing" in.
The crowdfunding sites (indie go go, kickstarter, etc) are just there to assist you in the process, but the real work is 100% up to you. You have to market yourself and your idea. You have to make your project real and exciting to people and you have to make people aware of it.
The majority of people are not surfing sites like kickstarter looking for projects to fund (yes, there are some, but they are the exception, not the rule). So to get money donated you have to find ways to draw people to your crowdfunding project.
The process never changes, just the tools change/improve along the way.
Barry_Green
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So? how is that in any way relevant to this discussion, or -- anything else?
If someone posts that they want to bake cookies, and someone else reads it and says "yes, I will support this" -- then it's a fair exchange between willing and informed individuals. It's honest and forthright.
If someone posts that they want to make a film, they describe the project, and someone else reads it and says "yes, I want to see this film, I will support it" -- and then the recipient takes that money and uses it to fix his car instead -- then that's dishonest. Full stop, period, end and done, it's dishonest. It is an abuse of the system and an abuse of the trust of the person who funded it.
filmman
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These websites take a cut of the funding. Also the donation processors get their cut, so it's not free money.
They drive traffic though. They are a big help in exposing an indie project without marketing funds. I don't know how many people have visited my project on Kickstarter; but I'm willing to bet it's a lot more than if I put up a funding page myself.
I was hoping the process was changing, Larry :smile:
filmman
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What does contingency mean then?
What does contingency mean then?
Even the standard budget form has a contingency item. It's usually ten percent. A filmmaker isn't supposed to fix his or her production car?
Anyway, I've always been upfront about that. So it's not dishonest after all. I hereby declare I'll use all funds according to my discretion.
Since I'm not signing a contract with the Kickstarter funders, I don't have the obligation to itemize exactly what I'm using the funds for. Also the funders are getting some small tokens of appreciation for their donations. I'm not promising them plots in heaven or dispensation for their sins -- for heaven's sake :engel017:
What does contingency mean then?
Even the standard budget form has a contingency item. It's usually ten percent. A filmmaker isn't supposed to fix his or her production car?
Anyway, I've always been upfront about that. So it's not dishonest after all. I hereby declare I'll use all funds according to my discretion.
Since I'm not signing a contract with the Kickstarter funders, I don't have the obligation to itemize exactly what I'm using the funds for. Also the funders are getting some small tokens of appreciation for their donations. I'm not promising them plots in heaven or dispensation for their sins -- for heaven's sake :engel017:
Shawn Philip Nelson
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stop the presses, you're actually going to attempt to get $500 off of kickstarter 'to make a film' and then use the funds to fix your car? that is a horrible idea. $500 is a lot to most people, but if your car needs fixing then sell something, borrow from family, save up, whatever, but please dont swindle the public under the guise of Kickstarter and filmmaking
Barry_Green
Moderator
Yeah, I think enough is enough.
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