film look with an HPX500

Beautiful video Normand. Thanks for sharing.

I have not found any other camera that replicates the beautiful look of Super16 quite like my hpx500.

Even the compression noise of the DVCProHD100 codec looks remarkably similar to Kodak Vision 200 grain structure.

This camera never fails me - just love it. -m
 
Thanks Mark,
Super 16mm look, that's what my director told me wen i shoot the last commercial with it. You can achieve so many different look with that camera, from film to fashion pristine look. I love it. I rent that camera so many time last year that i have decide to buy one last month. Making a big bet over larger sensor camera. Now i just hope i will pay it fast annof to buy an AF-100 soon so i can offer both camera for different purpose.
 
Normand Germain said:
Thanks Mark,
Super 16mm look, that's what my director told me wen i shoot the last commercial with it. You can achieve so many different look with that camera, from film to fashion pristine look. I love it. I rent that camera so many time last year that i have decide to buy one last month. Making a big bet over larger sensor camera. Now i just hope i will pay it fast annof to buy an AF-100 soon so i can offer both camera for different purpose.
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Hi Normand, I purchased an AF100 about 3 months ago and it is a perfect complement to the hpx500.

HPX500 = Run & gun, documentary, sports, events, multi cam, etc.
AF100 = Commercials, narrative cinema, and the like.

Also, if you end up getting an AF100, consider the Olympus 14-35 F2.0 lens. It's very sharp and bright.

Cheers, Mark
 
Here is the scene file

720 24pn
Operation type, film cam
Frame rate 48frame
syncro scan 180.0d
Detail leverl -2
V. Detail Level +4
Detail Coring -4
Chroma level -1
Gama Cinelike D
Matrix Norm2

Then in Premiere CS5 i use '' Equalize''
 
That video is mostly clipped in the whites... Was that on purpose to emulate dslr-s? Because to me it just looks like overblown video and not film or dslr like:)
 
I agree with Sanjin the whites are clipped and over exposed, it also has a green cast that may give a film effect but looks wrong to me.

My HPX301 also used to have this green cast but that was sorted in a firmware update, I shot an indie film a couple of years ago and got a nice saturated film contrast from the 301 using cinelike V, the trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG5hUYMTBx0
 
Normand Germain said:
The clipped area or overexposed are cause by the equalize effect in CS5. It make the compression noise comme out and look like film grain
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But it also seems to make it look more like video and at times DVcam rather than HD, the grain effect is also missing on the highlights and personally I do not like the effect, I would rather have well exposed areas as it make is look like you haven't exposed or lit the scene.
 
And about the dslr look i was making reference about the depth of field. Working at F1.8 with 2/3 inch CCD at 30 mm give you nice shallow depth of field.
 
Normand Germain said:
And about the dslr look i was making reference about the depth of field. Working at F1.8 with 2/3 inch CCD at 30 mm give you nice shallow depth of field.
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I certainly agree with that, I also did some tests two years ago with the 1/3" chip HPX301 to show how shallow DOF can be done on any camera if you know what you are doing: http://vimeo.com/5014764

Shallow DOF is not the be all for filmic shooting and over use of it can be tiring on the eyes, most feature films never use it on every shot as seems to be the DSLR style these days.
 
KINOKS said:
I agree Gary. Short DOF is way overused.
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It is interesting that people say the film look and if you watch most feature films they actually have very few shallow DOF shots, they also use them as and when needed, not all the time.

One other thing you never see on a feature film is the focus searching and bad wobbly cam that is all too prevalent in most DSLR shooting.
 
Frankly, when narrative films/TV shows overuse shallow DOF, it stands out. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World and Sherlock (excellent BBC modern update on the character) are two examples that go too far with it in certain shots.
 
GaryNattrass said:
One other thing you never see on a feature film is the focus searching and bad wobbly cam that is all too prevalent in most DSLR shooting.
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The focus searching off course! Let's do that!:) Seriously, it's way way overdone. Anybody who has a dslr does it (not everybody). I think that this dslr revolution brought new shooting stiles in to the front. Very short DOF, focus searching, anything else?
 
Sadly it's not a style but people not using the equipment correctly, a feature film has a focus puller to get it right but the noo media brigade think that getting the same results with a £2k camera can be achieved.

Even mainstream projects are doing it and during the Queen band interviews in the doco's on BBC at the weekend had most of the subjects drifting in and out of focus as they moved their heads as the DOF was far too shallow and they had no focus puller.
 
I actually meant the intentional focus searching not the accidental. This intentional focus searching is done a lot. You know...the type of shot where the camera is "searching" for an angle and also the focus is searching. Battle Los Angeles was made in this shooting style. Shaky camera followed by a short zoom correction (normally a zoom in) and a focus correction. And I see a lot of focus pulling from background to foreground on and on just as an effect to put things in a more dramatic atmosphere.

Edit: I've seen tons of videos done in this way but can't think of one at the moment:)
 
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