GH4 Feedback on Grade

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DC Brandon

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Hello guys,


Wandering if you can provide me with some feedback on my grade. Most of this was shot with the GH4 in natural with everything at -1 and hue at +1. There are some GoPro and G6 shots in there as well.
Any feedback or insight would be appreciated. Cheers.


 
While I'm far from a professional DP, I am a professional wedding videographer. There's nothing in that look that I find needs additional work. I would turn that over to the client for review.

On a side note, I see a LOT of this style of wedding videos out there these days, since the advent of DSLR really. I'm curious...is this just a highlights reel, something for your web site and a short version for the couple to show friends, or is this all they get? If they get more, what does that more look like? How long is it? What's this package selling for in your market?
 
Looks nice. The grade at 1.25 is a bit off, but unless this is a promo piece for your company, I can't say I would appreciate all the "cinema" style credits and titles. Surely this is about the couple and not you. But nicely filmed.
 
Thanks for the feedback, Jim. Yeah, I have been approaching things a little differently. I tend to create 5-10 min short films and then also deliver a full typically 45min to 1hour long documentary style film on a DVD or Blu-ray. The documentary style looks just like this one, except the pacing of the edit is a lot slower and there is a 100% focus on the natural audio of the day. Our packages range from $3k to $9k for weddings. It all depends on the deliverables and production value people want to see.

What do you typically produce for your clients?
 
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Thanks for the feedback stoninapond. I agree about the 1:25 part. Not sure what I did there.
I guess the credits part is take it or leave it, but I always add these kinds of credits to my projects.
How do you present your titles and credits?
 
grading looks good...skin tones look surprisingly natural too, given all the complaints in this forum about how bad the GH4's skin tones are :)
 
I think 1:25 is just weird because it's a mix of incandescent and sunlight, with two very different tempertures. How I'd personally do it is correct for the incandescents (less orange/yellow) and let the sunlight be very blue. It looks very good. Only thing, for my taste, a few of the shots, including the first shot with the closeups of the couple coming around the barn looks just a tad overexposed to my eyes as you cannot see any detail in her dress and on the sun lit side of her face. This is just a small quibble, and I'm sure the bride and groom probably won't notice at all, and it's really not bad at all. Same at 3:50 as people look a little washed out. This may not actually be the grade, but how it was shot. I know I'm sometimes having a hard time exposing on the GH4 as I learn it.

Great job overall, just a couple things, that when asked to critique, that I picked out.
 
DC Brandon said:
How do you present your titles and credits?
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I don't film weddings and haven't been married in a long while....:tongue:

Perhaps your clients want to know who produced their videos, and other creators do similar things. But for me personally (and it is entirely a personal feeling) I would rather the couple and guests be the only focus of the hopefully long lasting memory.

As I said, if it's a promo reel, then yes, the credits add gravitas to the production.

Still, enjoyed your offering. Thanks for sharing.
 
DC Brandon said:
What do you typically produce for your clients?
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More like your long form. I've never been a fan of video without nat sound, unless it's slow motion. If it ain't slo-mo, it just seems off to not hear the background audio at some level, even if you have to fake it. You have it in a few clips, but not all, and that's just weird to me.

But like I said, I'm seeing a LOT of this style out there.
 
I've intercut between the GH4 and G6 in pretty much every location in this one. To be honest, the G6 is a pretty great especially considering the price. It has good glass in front of it though, which is more than half the battle if you ask me.
 
DC Brandon said:
To be honest, the G6 is a pretty great especially considering the price. It has good glass in front of it though, which is more than half the battle if you ask me.
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Oh, absolutely agreed. I own one as well and love it, but not for multi-cam shoots anymore. I experimented using it with a GH2 because they share a sensor, but the color science is more like the GH3. But when I tried matching it with a GH3, the sensor difference meant it still didn't exactly match the look. These days I just stick to using 2 of the same camera whenever possible (usually 2 GH2s because they are affordable and plentiful)- generally multicam shoots require quick edits and I'd rather just apply a grade and avoid spending time color matching cameras.

That's why it always catches my attention to hear someone doing it.
 
I hear you man. I have since moved to two GH4s. Makes editing so much easier as long as you are shooting with the same settings. Still shocked at the quality of the cheap G6...really underrated!
 
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