F35 and Gimbals

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skatajkid

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Has anyone here had any success with gimbals of any type with the F35? I know I saw a post from Macgregor showing his stripped down F35 on I think a Movi M10...

Theoretically the Ronin should hold it as well.

I'm considering getting a Flowcine Gravity One for use with an easy rig, and it seems like that should hold and maneuver the F35 no problem (it's meant for bigger cameras like the Alexa, and built out Reds and what not) - and I actually like that it's not motor based...

I'm mostly concerned about the physical footprint of the F35, and not so much the actual weight....

Figured I'd start a discussion! I'll share things as I find out. A buddy of mine is getting an M15 for his aerial stuff, and we're going to test running the F35 on it (though not in the air)... should work great.
 
I tried it on a ronin but the center of gravity is so high on the f35 that it won't balance, I ordered the newer longer sled for bigger cameras to see if that works- otherwise it would require some modification to the gimbal.
 
Hunter Hampton said:
I tried it on a ronin but the center of gravity is so high on the f35 that it won't balance, I ordered the newer longer sled for bigger cameras to see if that works- otherwise it would require some modification to the gimbal.
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I've been talking with the GravityOne guys (who are super helpful) and this is their concern too. I've measured stuff and sent a bunch of photos to them and they're going to try to rent an F35 to test it with. The F35 stripped down is only about 2" taller than an Alexa, but shaped much more oddly... The gravity one is meant to deal with stuff like Alexas, whereas I don't think I've ever seen one on a Ronin?

I thought about maybe trying to get a custom top plate machined to help with the GravityOne (as on that one you mount from the top, not the bottom - see: http://www.cgsweden.se/FLOWCINE/DSC_0474-41-25.jpg) Though this also isn't your typical gimbal that people are used to now...

The M15 hasn't arrived yet, but as soon as it does I'm gonna try it, but I think the shape/center of gravity problems will persist... which is a bummer!
 
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skatajkid said:
Has anyone here had any success with gimbals of any type with the F35? I know I saw a post from Macgregor showing his stripped down F35 on I think a Movi M10...

Theoretically the Ronin should hold it as well.

I'm considering getting a Flowcine Gravity One for use with an easy rig, and it seems like that should hold and maneuver the F35 no problem (it's meant for bigger cameras like the Alexa, and built out Reds and what not) - and I actually like that it's not motor based...

I'm mostly concerned about the physical footprint of the F35, and not so much the actual weight....

Figured I'd start a discussion! I'll share things as I find out. A buddy of mine is getting an M15 for his aerial stuff, and we're going to test running the F35 on it (though not in the air)... should work great.
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Well it did work on the M10 with a light weight lens and no battery. You'll want to power the camera sith an extension cord. That´s what I did with a canon 1Dc anyway. The less weight in the gimbal the better, right?
 
Forget the gimbals. Forget the Steadicam. (OK, I'm kidding). But check out the little white box from SteadXP.
https://vimeo.com/104633742
Using accelerometers, solid-state gyros, and a gps, it creates meta-data that can be synced with camera footage, and then processed with their software to not only provide stabilization, but even hyperlapse footage. Considering the weight of the F35, the SteadXP would hardly be noticed.
It'll be interesting to see how it compares to the type of stabilization that relies strictly on tracking. Especially where footage might become so wildly blurred that tracking might fail to hold. Not that that kind of footage is conducive to being "stabilized" anyway.
And as Viddovation pointed out, scaling/moving footage in post effects resolution, so this may not be a "perfect" solution. Still, it seems like an exciting innovation.
 
Really cool, I would think its only a matter of time before someone makes an android or iOS app for that application. FWIW, Ive done some 100% handheld moves with tighter shutters on the f35 and they turn out amazingly stabilized with just basic stabilization tools- CCD FTW!
 
Sandbox said:
Forget the gimbals. Forget the Steadicam. (OK, I'm kidding). But check out the little white box from SteadXP.
https://vimeo.com/104633742
Using accelerometers, solid-state gyros, and a gps, it creates meta-data that can be synced with camera footage, and then processed with their software to not only provide stabilization, but even hyperlapse footage. Considering the weight of the F35, the SteadXP would hardly be noticed.
It'll be interesting to see how it compares to the type of stabilization that relies strictly on tracking. Especially where footage might become so wildly blurred that tracking might fail to hold. Not that that kind of footage is conducive to being "stabilized" anyway.
And as Viddovation pointed out, scaling/moving footage in post effects resolution, so this may not be a "perfect" solution. Still, it seems like an exciting innovation.
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Wow! Just... wow.

I love engineers :)
 
Skatajkid, where are you located. If in US maybe we can help... Drop me a line. I'd think the gravity one might work real well with F35.
 
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