F3 and ex1r matching

jcoxshooter

jcoxshooter

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I have shoot with our F3 and our b camera is a sony ex1r. Any suggestion on getting the color close on the two? I

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Hi,
shot often now with my EX-1 and f3... they're pretty close! i like shooting on cinegamma2 for the EX-1 giving me a nicer roll of in the Hilights, while shooting cinegamma4 on the f3 for having a nice roll off in the hilights and lifted darks... but in general the match very well given that any lens you put on the f3 will look differently according to it's characteristics...
on the f3 i use alister chapman's settings (xdcam-user.com/alistersblog)
my EX-1 i reset to factory. but the ex-1r works differently for it has a different far red filter applied...
i have a greenish fujifilm-like setting for the EX-1 that i like very much - which works as well on the f3 - but that's going already into color timing - so maybe not the right thing for you...

a commercial i did which ex-1 to standard and f3 to alister's settings:

http://vimeo.com/34118928

(given, this went through color grading.. ;-))
 
The F3 and EX1 should match up fairly closely in color and gamma. What you have to worry about is sensor size and lenses (are you using those Godawful Sony lenses or something else?) The F3 has a much larger sensor which means it will have a much shallower dof. You can try to compensate a bit by moving the EX1 as far back as possible and zooming in as much as you can. A smart thing to do would be to use your EX1 for masters where you need a really wide option. In those situations, one isn't expecting a shallow DoF and the EX1 can zoom out the equivalent of an 18mm lens (the Sony kit only has a 35mm at the widest). Of course, if you're not using the Sony lenses on the F3 (which is smart cuz they suck); then it's going to be harder to match the two up. So, for best results, us the EX1 for really wide shots or really telaphoto shots when you can zoom in a lot. Avoid using it for plain old mid shots, and close-ups because the difference in DoF will really be apparent.

I was on a shoot a few weeks ago where we used an F3, EX3 (both on cine-gammas), and 7D (on neutral).

As far as gamma and color, the F3 and EX3 were very close. The F3 looked a tiny bit more natural in the way the highlights rolled off but it was very close. The much more noticable difference was, of course, the depth of field since the F3 has a far larger sensor. This bumped for me quite a bit when looking at the footage.

The 7D had the opposite problem from the other two. The sensor size is the same as the F3 so the dof matches but, even on neutral, the gamma was very different; WAY more contrasty. I wish we had loaded the 7D with the tecnicolor of marvel picture profiles as that might have helped a lot.
 
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