F23 vs. F35 Picture Quality

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Rick LaLonde

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Anybody here shot with both of these that finds one has an edge over the other?

I'm not asking number of stops, bit depth, depth of field, etc. Just would like to get experienced input on which has nicest picture, most filmic color and texture. Thx.
 
F35

The F23 has a good character. While shares some of the same qualities, ends up feeling completely different. It has my favourite vintage 2/3” look. Mike owns one now, he may have a better opinion. I really like how the camera draws ip some nostalgia, but also just looks good.

F35 will just always be good. Because it is good. It isn’t like other cheap cameras that were good for the time, it is just a good camera!
 
Thanks, James. Interesting about the vintage look. Hadn't thought of it that way but have to agree. I'm hard pressed between both cameras. I don't see flesh tone variance in any other camera like these two.

Any others with insights?
 
The F23 has a wider color gamut than the f35 due to the 3 chip wide band prisim, skin tones are the same, color space is the same... color depth is different. f23 max is 10bit f35 12bit. The f23 is a fantastic camera and if you find just a body it will most likely be going for a bit less than the f35 bodies but not by much.
 
James0b57 said:
F35

The F23 has a good character. While shares some of the same qualities, ends up feeling completely different. It has my favourite vintage 2/3” look. Mike owns one now, he may have a better opinion. I really like how the camera draws ip some nostalgia, but also just looks good.

F35 will just always be good. Because it is good. It isn’t like other cheap cameras that were good for the time, it is just a good camera!
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I think in their own right both cameras will always be good. They are the same camera minus the optical block. My way of looking at it is the F23 is the Super16mm Body and the F35 is the Super35mm Body lol. Both are built strong and make beautiful images.
 
Mike Krumlauf said:
I think in their own right both cameras will always be good. They are the same camera minus the optical block. My way of looking at it is the F23 is the Super16mm Body and the F35 is the Super35mm Body lol. Both are built strong and make beautiful images.
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In many ways, you are right. Only difference, is with film, it is the exact same formula and tech, just a smaller slice, whereas with video, it’s a whole new sensor. Which can mean that the smaller sensor might even have a better image, depending on the tech.

Hope to see more of you shooting with that unicorn of a camera!
 
James0b57 said:
In many ways, you are right. Only difference, is with film, it is the exact same formula and tech, just a smaller slice, whereas with video, it’s a whole new sensor. Which can mean that the smaller sensor might even have a better image, depending on the tech.

Hope to see more of you shooting with that unicorn of a camera!
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From what I have read their are a few DOPs that say the F23 did have the superior color science given the wide band CCD prism vs a single chip. If I had a F35 to test alongside the 23 with color charts, etc I'd be able to figure that one out.
 
Mike Krumlauf said:
From what I have read their are a few DOPs that say the F23 did have the superior color science given the wide band CCD prism vs a single chip. If I had a F35 to test alongside the 23 with color charts, etc I'd be able to figure that one out.
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Well, post some more footage!


Most of the technical videos on the F23 were from back in the early days of internet video. 240-480p and highly compressed.
 
In theory it shouldn't be drastically different given that the f35 is oversampled stripe RGB compared to a bayer array, but who knows.
As soon as I can find time I'll try and side by side test the f23 and f35 blocks, assuming it's even possible to switch back to the f23 block!
 
helweg said:
In theory it shouldn't be drastically different given that the f35 is oversampled stripe RGB compared to a bayer array, but who knows.
As soon as I can find time I'll try and side by side test the f23 and f35 blocks, assuming it's even possible to switch back to the f23 block!
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I look forward to the tests if you are able to do it.
 
James0b57 said:
Well, post some more footage!


Most of the technical videos on the F23 were from back in the early days of internet video. 240-480p and highly compressed.
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When I have time I will :). Subscribe to my youtube channel to keep up to date as I don't post everything I do on DVXuser.
 
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