exposure help! sunny16 inaccurate!

The sunny16 rule and all light meters for that matter work on 50% gray. They are always trying to bring the exposure in the the middle ground. I remember one of the first thing I learned in photography was how to fool the camera into making snow look white. On a snowy day, the meter will read the bright white and try to bring it down to middle gray and in doing so turn the white snow into a dirty and muddy looking mess.

This is basically whats going on in the first post. Sunny16 is making the bright part of the image middle gray in doing so underexposing the shadows. Look at the pavement in the road. It's right on. The road is overexposed in the one you called the correct exposure. It sunny16 rule worked in your second test because of the diffused light of the overcast day and the overall lack of contrast. Sunny16 is just a guide and you, as the photographer, need to adjust exposure according to what you want the photograph to look like.
 
The sunny16 rule and all light meters for that matter work on 50% gray. They are always trying to bring the exposure in the the middle ground. I remember one of the first thing I learned in photography was how to fool the camera into making snow look white. On a snowy day, the meter will read the bright white and try to bring it down to middle gray and in doing so turn the white snow into a dirty and muddy looking mess.

This is basically whats going on in the first post. Sunny16 is making the bright part of the image middle gray in doing so underexposing the shadows. Look at the pavement in the road. It's right on. The road is overexposed in the one you called the correct exposure. It sunny16 rule worked in your second test because of the diffused light of the overcast day and the overall lack of contrast. Sunny16 is just a guide and you, as the photographer, need to adjust exposure according to what you want the photograph to look like.

thanks for that. I didn't realize that the sunny16 was explained like that. I thought I gave those guidlines to give an average good exposure for everything in the frame. LOL! I'm still a noob.
 
btw here was my test results from today.

It was overcast today and I did 5 shots.

sunny16 says heavy overcast is f5.6:

14mm f5.6 1/160 @ 160iso
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25mm f5.6 1/160 @ 160iso
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35mm f5.6 1/160 @ 160iso
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50mm f5.6 1/160 @ 160iso
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100mm f5.8 1/160 @ 160iso (was as close to 5.6 as it would let me go)
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So... why the hell did this test work normal, but the sunny condition test failed?



Did you expect to get F16?
You stated that it was overcast, so therefore it is not a bright CLEAR sunny day.
F16 will only be true around noon, with a clear sky.
If you use the light level during that time as a reference, then things might fall in line for you.

On a bright clear sky day at NOON, you should get F16 or a little more depending on where on earth you live.
Add 2 hours away from noon, take away a stop, add clouds, take away 2 stops.
The sunny 16 rule is based on starting at noon on a BRIGHT clear day, make adjustments from that reference.

You did not indicate the time of day, but you did say it was heavy overcast, and you did NOT make adjustments for that if you expected to get F16.
 
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