EX1-R and an Indie Slider, ad or corporate?

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Miguel

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Here is a one minute clip we shot with our Ex1-R and an Indie Slider.

I was pretty happy with it, but not everyone was. Be happy to hear peoples thoughts?

http://www.vimeo.com/15918393

Also, if you had to classify it, would you call it a tvc or a corporate?
 
Overall I liked it a lot. The slider got some motion and depth into the shots, and it did highlight the winery nicely and the owners probably will like it.

From an artistic viewpoint there seemed to be only three types of shots. Sliders, static and undercranked. I would have liked to see a couple more, but that's more of something that people in a camera forum would notice. Probably not the general public.

When you're not focused on people its hard to come up with different shots because over the shoulders and twofers are out. For the route you chose I might have also chosen a jib to have a high shot, a rising shot and a low angle shot, etc just to ad more variety. Setting those up is time consuming though and takes extra time or crew.

Still, well done. :happy:
 
Thanks for the positive feedback Duke. I appreciate it.

You were right about the owner, he loved it. He has since asked for a longer version as well.

I agree a jib would have been really nice to add to the mix. I shot it by myself with no crew in a day so it would have been very difficult to do . I should have added some different angles to the mix, definitely take that on board for next time too. I will look through the footage and see if I can add more variety to the mix for the next cut.

Cheers
 
Generally, it's very nice. However, I don't like the undercranked shots. What was the motivation for them? For example, making wine is not a rushed process.
 
Hi Jay,

I do see your point. I was trying to demonstate the atmosphere in the Cellar door. This winery has a lot of groups that come through to do wine tastings and I was trying to show some of that. They do sit in contrast with the other shots. I wam going to have to give this some thought.

I am still trying to see if people think it's more a corporate or tvc too.

Thanks
 
Nice but I agree with the comments about more variation in shots. I like movement in shots, especially when not much is going on otherwise, but a jib angle would've been nice, or a slide forward or back. It seemed to be almost all sideways slide shots. But it's still quite nice.
 
Cheers Buck, absolutely. Jib wasn't an option but I should have done more of the backwards/forwards slides. I didn't even realise that, when I was putting it together, my favourite shots are pretty much both backwards slides, The first shot of the vines and the second last one of the estate. Seems so obvious when you say it.

Thanks
 
Even without a jib you have other options. You can match your slider angle to something there.

For example, if there is an interesting staircase you can match the angle of the handrail.

You can also do a rising shot with two legs of your tripod and tilt it. Almost any motion helps a static shot.
 
A good color-grading pass would do miracles for it, in my opinion. Nice piece...it motivates me to put down the 5D and get out my EX1R more!
 
Duke M. said:
Even without a jib you have other options. You can match your slider angle to something there.

For example, if there is an interesting staircase you can match the angle of the handrail.

You can also do a rising shot with two legs of your tripod and tilt it. Almost any motion helps a static shot.
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Thanks Duke,

No staircases but I'll keep that in mind for next time. Can you explain what you mean with the tripod legs. I can be a bit slow sometimes.
 
Miguel said:
Thanks Duke,

No staircases but I'll keep that in mind for next time. Can you explain what you mean with the tripod legs. I can be a bit slow sometimes.
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Its a simple trick. A small jib indoors allows a small rising or falling shot. You can duplicate that to a large extent with your tripod.

When your camera and tripod are set up fold up one leg and loosen the forward/back tilt on the tripod head. Keep the rotation locked. Keep a good grip on your camera.

Leave two tripod legs on the ground, lower your camera (or squat with it), turn your camera on and slowly raise the camera (or stand up.) You'll get a rising shot. Don't go over the middle or you'll have a roller coaster ride.

Excuse my quick and dirty illustration, but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

RisiingShot.jpg

For a falling shot just lower the camera. A little practice and it comes out quite well, but it does take a little practice to make it smooth.

Don't worry about calling it an ad vs a corporate video. A corporate video is an ad, though its usually a longer format and may be selling the corporate philosophy, or leadership rather than the product.
 
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Thanks Duke, that seems like an awesome trick. I'll definitely give it a go. Looks like it could take a bit of practise. I wish I'd known about it when i shot this video. The pic explained it nicely too.

The reason I was asking whether to call it an ad or a corporate was because I wanted to enter it into the ACS (Australian Cinematography Society) state awards. I didn't think it would win anything but I wanted to start entering for feedback and to guage where I was. I found a local/regional tvc category which seemed to fit nicely with the video so I entered it there.

cheers
 
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