EX1 offloading

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morgan_moore

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Hi

Stupid one this!

Having trouble getting the files off my cards (EX1)

I have a SBAC us10 reader, 2011 imac and XD browser v2 intalled

It used to be obvious with V1 installed on my old mac!

Final intent is unknown as the editor maybe me or a third party

I use FCP7 but really just want the files on my machine not linke to a specific FCP project

-one of the clips spans two cards

-the browser does not seem to be showing all clips - there are clearly about 10 in the BPAV folder, but only 2 showing in the browser - nice!

Any clues

Thanks

SMM
 
Copy the whole card over, as in Command 'c' the card and then Command 'v' over to whatever folder you want to put them in. Then use the xdcam browser or your NLE to view them in. Nice and simple.
 
I was (and am) struggling to 'export' (Ideally to pro-res) using the sony software

I mandaged to see the shots and get them in to my FCP project using Log and Transer

Still baffeld by the sony software

My overall mission could probably be descibed thus..

"to create a single directory, containing further directories of a days shoot for handing to an editor, all shots in an edit ready format, ideally pro res"
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You cannot convert to ProRes using the Sony software, nor should you really need to. The recommended XDCAM workflow for most productions is to keep the clips XDCAM native. For that workflow, you just use Sony's Content Browser utility to "Import for FCP" where the clips will be rewrapped as MOV files but the codec is still native XDCAM. It's a very easy, fast, and simple workflow if you follow the right steps.

http://www.vortexmedia.com/STREAM_XDB.html

However, going back to your original post, you say "Final intent is unknown as the editor maybe me or a third party". Then why are you trying to do any conversions at all? You are setting yourself up for trouble. You should be giving the client/editor original files that have not been molested because you don't know what they are going to need. For example, if you are finally successful at transcoding to ProRes, or even if you just rewrap the files as XDCAM .MOV, there is a very good chance that the unknown editor won't even be able to use those files if he's on a PC.

What you should be doing is using Content Browser to make clones of the memory cards onto a hard drive and let the person who acutally has to edit the files decide what to do with the files when he/she gets them.
 
Doug Jensen said:
"Final intent is unknown as the editor maybe me or a third party" Then why are you trying to do any conversions at all? You are setting yourself up for trouble.
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This is an interesting point.

Now my projects may be shot on gopro/5d/EX1/FS100/NEX5n to name my personal cameras

There may also be sound that needs synching and the like

(for example this conference I had the EX1 locked into the sound desk and was also rolling pretty stuff with the FS100 with a scratch mic - most likely the FS100 image needs attaching to the EX1 sound)

Many business offers/relationships with the editor can be formed - "traditional" or "non traditional"

The relationship I choose/was given, for this job, is to present everything as 'edit ready' in Pro Res

Can they edit pro res? Well thats what Ive agreed to deliver, the Acam being the FS100

In this situation it happens that they can take XDcam too - no problem

The history of presenting 'edit ready' with this client comes from the client having previous synch issues (not with me) of dual files from DSLRs and sound recorders which lead to a situation where the operators must deliver 'edit ready'

The subtext being -
"OK if you wanna shoot dual then you are responsibility for it all synching"
"Ok if you wanna shoot flat then grade before delivery"

The client moves a lot of stuff from different operators, around the country, and basically need to drop into their NLE and get chopping a video!


..And yes of course I have copied and backed up the cards and stuctures..

..Who will edit? Well Im doing a 2min 'quickie' from the event and the footage will be then added to the client archive for use in future and larger projects - you can surely see the advantage to the client that their archive is in a consistent format, synched and ready to go?

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Sorry, I didn't see your second post where you said the client specifications required delivery in ProRes. You gotta give 'em what they want. But you can't do that with Sony's software, you're going to have to convert them to MOV and render them out to ProRes from inside FCP, Compressor, or one of the other dozens of programs that can do it . . . but not Sony. If it was me, I'd use Content Browser to rewrap the clips to MOV copies then import those files into FCP and then batch export them as ProRes. No big deal except for the rending time.
 
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Doug Jensen said:
Sorry, I didn't see your second post where you said the client specifications required delivery in ProRes. You gotta give 'em what they want. But you can't do that with Sony's software, you're going to have to convert them to MOV and render them out to ProRes from inside FCP, Compressor, or one of the other dozens of programs that can do it . . . but not Sony. If it was me, I'd use Content Browser to rewrap the clips to MOV copies then import those files into FCP and then batch export them as ProRes. No big deal except for the rending time.
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If you're using FCP7 I would suggest you use compressor instead for the conversion from XDCam to ProRes as it can access all your cores & do the job faster that FCP7 can.
 
Doug Jensen said:
Sorry, I didn't see your second post where you said the client specifications required delivery in ProRes. You gotta give 'em what they want. But you can't do that with Sony's software, you're going to have to convert them to MOV and render them out to ProRes from inside FCP, Compressor, or one of the other dozens of programs that can do it . . . but not Sony. If it was me, I'd use Content Browser to rewrap the clips to MOV copies then import those files into FCP and then batch export them as ProRes. No big deal except for the rending time.
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Exactly.

I think the truth is the client just wants stuff that they can drop on the timeline (FCP) without too many additional steps (having been burned by DSLR and unsynched sound files)

Back to my original question which is how can I use SCB to re-wrap the clips so I just get a neat folder of .mov s at a location I specify!

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Thanks for the suggestion for Compressor but I prefer doing it within FCP. If there is a speed difference (not sure that there really is) it is irrelevant for my needs.
 
morgan_moore said:
Back to my original question which is how can I use SCB to re-wrap the clips so I just get a neat folder of .mov s at a location I specify!

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That question was already answered back in post #4. You use the "Import for Final Cut Pro" command after coniguring your preferences.
But it will still be XDCAM. If you want to transcode to ProRes then you have take those MOV files and transcode them with FCP, Compressor, or whatever you want. But you're not ever going to go straight from SCB to ProRes.
 
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