EX1 Audio

Wow, 57 looks and no takers so far. Is everybody recording to dual systems?

There are plenty of video clips posted, but can somebody please post some audio clips, preferably from a fairly decent microphone plugged directly into the EX1? Would be even better if you can have the same setup with another camera (say DVX or HVX) for comparison.
 
I always have felt that the difference between uncompressed digital systems at a given sampling rate are generally inaudible except when pushed really hard, and that all you'd ever really hear are issues introduced by the mic or other analog input devices, no?

The EX1 sounds as good as the HVX or any DAT or digital recording device I've tried - no better, no worse.
 
matthew77 said:
I always have felt that the difference between uncompressed digital systems at a given sampling rate are generally inaudible except when pushed really hard, and that all you'd ever really hear are issues introduced by the mic or other analog input devices, no?
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No. All DV systems are uncompressed digital audio, but there's miles and miles of difference between a professional DVCAM unit and a little Sony consumercam. The pre-amps and all the other circuitry has a huge effect on the final processed audio that's going to be recorded, even though the final recording mechanism is identical (48khz uncompressed 16-bit PCM).
 
I was thinking in the pro realm - as in HVX vs. EX1.

Are the preamp differences really audible after I've connected a mic and mixer to the equation?

Perhaps.
 
Yes, there are still significant differences. If you care about camera audio, it's something you must investigate and test as thoroughly as any other aspect of the camera.

Sorry, though, no answer, as I haven't tested the EX1!
 
When kubalsky arrives in Japan and if he is willing. I plan to do a little audio test for reference.

I will use a high quality mic - sanken cs3 (I would hate people to come back and say this was x or y because of the crappy mic you used). I will use exactly the same mic and set up for all cams so the only variable possible are the preamps and recording process. I promise to place the samples online for listening unadultered. kubalsky can hang around whilst I do it for verification of that. I will test on

Canon A1
Panasonic HVX
Sony EX1
Panasonic HPX.

Unless someone else shows up with another test camera, thats it :P
 
Noel Evans said:
When kubalsky arrives in Japan and if he is willing. I plan to do a little audio test for reference.

I will use a high quality mic - sanken cs3 (I would hate people to come back and say this was x or y because of the crappy mic you used). I will use exactly the same mic and set up for all cams so the only variable possible are the preamps and recording process. I promise to place the samples online for listening unadultered. kubalsky can hang around whilst I do it for verification of that. I will test on

Canon A1
Panasonic HVX
Sony EX1
Panasonic HPX.

Unless someone else shows up with another test camera, thats it :P
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Sweet!
 
Great -- test dialogue, but also test some challenging material like a live concert performance (if possible); if not, maybe a direct feed from an SACD or DVD-Audio system, via line-in?
 
Ill see what I can organise. Kaku has a sweet audio set up, I am sure we can simulate something... OK with you Kaku? Ill talk to you about it when I call you later anyway.
 
sure, we have various recording rigs and project files. I have 24bit 192k orchestra recording, various band recordings with hi-def, so it will be more raw than SACD or DVD-Audio recordings. Also we are capable of playing back SACD and DVD-audio titles.

I'll try to see something we can share without copy rights problems.
 
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