Ew 122-p g3

ollywood88

ollywood88

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Hey all,

I am about to purchase some Wireless Mics. I was looking at these over the ew 112p because of the Mic being cardioid.

It is mainly being used for interviews not weddings so I wouldn't need any omni directional sound.

Has anybody had any experience with these Wireless Mics. If so could you post your thoughts

Thank you .
 
I would not touch a cardioid tie mic. with a bargepole - horrible things.

The omni version will work much better for what you want to do.

Cardioid tie mics are only any good for a PA situation where there is a high probabilty of feedback - and even there an omni tie mic. will normally work better.

With a cardioid (ew 122p G3) you will get drop-out problems as the waerer turns his/her head and you are likely to also get more room noise as you have to have teh cardioid further away from the mouth than you would with an omni.

So - please - forget about the cardioid and go for the ew 112p G3 with the omni mic. instead.
 
John, Thanks for the reply really helpful and great information.

thanks for the information. It has really helped me. So the 112's it is then

What Frequency is UK Legal found some 780-822 mhz are these UK LEGAL?

Thank you
 
John is more qualified to recommend specific frequency blocks in the UK but in any case, I would choose a (legal) frequency block that has 'vacant' TV channels (or low signal strength channels) in your area of use. You can refer to the online 'Sennheiser frequency finder' for this if available.
If the UK is anything like the US, 'legal' wireless mic frequency blocks are subject to change, so I would take that into consideration as well. In the US, for instance, the 600MHz channels are going up for auction in 2015. The 700MHz channel blocks were lost a few years ago.
You may want to search this and the DVi audio forums for more tips on getting optimum performance from G2/3 systems.

Don't know which are legal in the UK but I think the G3 blocks are:
Range-GB (606 - 648MHz)
Range E (823 - 865MHz)
Range C (734 - 776MHz)
Range B (626 - 668MHz)
Range G (566 - 608MHz)
Range A (516 - 558MHz)


You may want to search this and the DVi audio forums for more tips on getting optimum performance from G2/3 systems.
 
ollywood88 said:
...because of the Mic being cardioid.

It is mainly being used for interviews not weddings so I wouldn't need any omni directional sound.
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You couldn't be more wrong. The only mic for your use is an omni. Why? Because your "talent" has no training and no experience, and you will have limited mic placement options. An omni overcomes this. A cardiod accentuates it, so don't go there.
 
Ch 70 - the band that allows unregulated operation is 863-865MHz. Ch 38 - where a license is needed is annoyingly too far away to allow one bit of kit to cover both. So if you wish to have access to more channels and the additional safety this provides, then the licensed band makes sense. Ch 70 is not guaranteed interference free from digital phones in the next block below - and can only really manage 4 or 5 (with G3) channels. Every Tom Dick and Disco Dave uses ch 70. Quite a few operate illegally in ch 69, but as 4G spreads, it's likely they will be squeezed out into the quiet bit - ch 70, making congestion worse.

The real problem with the cardioid mics that makes us not keen on them is that directional mics need aiming. Fitting a clip on microphone in a way that keeps it aligned towards the mouth is tricky, and of course, people move their heads, so a cardioid mic tends to favour the side it's clipped to - and when the talent turns their head, the incoming sound may well be in one of the nulls and go quiet and thin sounding. I do have just one cardioid lav, and it is hardly ever used on a person, but does come in quite handy clipped to a violin tail piece!
 
ollywood88 said:
John, Thanks for the reply really helpful and great information.

thanks for the information. It has really helped me. So the 112's it is then

What Frequency is UK Legal found some 780-822 mhz are these UK LEGAL?

Thank you
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In the UK Range-GB (606 - 648MHz) is the preferred band for professionals. Channel 38 (606-614MHz) is legal anywhere in the country - but you have to purchase a licence to use them. This is the professional band used by film and broadcast sound recordists. The rest of the frequencies in this version are site-specific only and you would need to purchase a separate licence for each venue.

Range E (823 - 865MHz) is totally illegal, except for the top 2MHz band of 863-865Mhz - this is legal without a licence all over Europe (in any ETSI signatory country). This is the consumer band for low power audio, licence-free, and is also used for radio headphones and the like. NB: 823-863MHz is the band used for the new trans-European mobile broadband network and it's illegal to use these frequencies and you are likely to suffer from bad interference - but, as I said, the top 2MHz of 863-865MHz is legal everywhere.

Other ranges can also be legal, but on a site-specific licence that is bought for each venue. Your (Range D) 780-822MHz frequencies are illegal as they are also in the band used for the Euro-wide mobile broadband. If they are second-hand, the owner wants to get rid as he can't use them is Europe anymore.

I hope this helps.
 
There are often 112p G3 sets on Ebay UK that go for around £120 less than the new retail price. That soon adds up if you need several sets. Just make sure the seller is of long good standing obviously as you don't want to end up with a fake - apparently there were a lot around at one time.

Make sure you are buying the best band for you, which I would say is Channel 38, (606-614 usable). If buying two sets don't get one on Channel 38 and another on channel 70 as that would prevent you mixing and matching. And that its an omni lav (as already explained) and that all the accessories are included as replacement accessories can be quite pricey. I bought my first G3 set from Creative Video and the next two sets on Ebay.

Pete
 
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Thank you all for your input.

I ordered 1x Set of EW 112P G3 Good price at £350.00 Great condition arrived today.

Thank you all for your help. :cheesy:
 
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