Episode 3 Thoughts (Saw it last night (05.03.05) in Marin)

David Jimerson said:
Who puts 6 in front of 4? :shocked: :undecided
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My "nerd" Star Wars friends--ewoks and everything. I'd say I'm indifferent as to 6 and 4, I liked them both equally (the speeder bikes sold me). That and it just finished an era with 6, so it seemed to have more impact.

Though I will say that they could be poser SW fanatics :laugh: :grin:
 
Ought2bCommitted said:
A lot of people. Different strokes for different folks.
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Wow. I don't know of ANYONE who would put Jedi in front of the original. This is the first I've heard of this phenomenon.
 
David Jimerson said:
Wow. I don't know of ANYONE who would put Jedi in front of the original. This is the first I've heard of this phenomenon.
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LOL. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but yeah there are actually people who would do such a thing. And the great thing is that its such a subjective art form, that it doesn't matter.
 
Okay; I'm following now

Jedi in front of the orginals? You guys high on something?

For me it is:

1,2,3,6,5,4

(1 = 1977, 2 = Empire / This is in reference to order of release)
 
John_Hudson said:
Okay; I'm following now

Jedi in front of the orginals? You guys high on something?

For me it is:

1,2,3,6,5,4

(1 = 1977, 2 = Empire / This is in reference to order of release)
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argh couldn't use the stardard SW numbered sequence as agreed upon in the galactic....blah blah...

I'm confused though did you mean original? Because Jedi is one of the "originals"...

-Robert
 
I consider Revenge of the Sith (and probably the entire prequel trilogy) to be one of the biggest disappointments of my young life. I think this is one of those dangers in making a prequel in the first place. Lucas fell into the trap of going through the motions and rushing through just to get us to where we wanted to be.

And he wasted the entire first film on Anakin as child. He could have wrapped that backstory up in the first 20 minutes or so. Then he could have centered the second film about the clone war and its effect on anakin and how Palpatine draws him in. And then he could have spent the third film showing in detail and with character development how he turns to the darkside. The last film just moved way too fast. And the dialogue got worse as the films progressed, not better.

Noooooooooooooooooo!!! :thumbdown
 
Ought2bCommitted said:
LOL. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but yeah there are actually people who would do such a thing. And the great thing is that its such a subjective art form, that it doesn't matter.
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I don't really CARE; I'm more of a Star Trek fan, anyway. But everyone I've talked to, everyone I've read, everyone I've ever encountered easily considered Jedi the weakest of the original three.
 
Sith has moments of brilliants and moments of idiocy, and even Clones had a few great sequences towards the end.

For me what's most interesting is to see how George works as a filmmaker. He's very geared towards the processes and sees movies as an entity that's shaped during production--NOT before and after it. He edits as he shoots as he writes, shoots practice runs in advance, does absurd amounts of concept art. It's totally the opposite of what Hitchock, for instance, might do, and it's an approach that has problems, but I think the visual grandeur of Episode III vindicates it to some extent. Interestingly, both he and Joss Whedon (a big Star Wars fan, who, as a writer famous for dialogue, is not such a big fan of the prequels) called Sith essentially a "silent film." It really is. There are fast cuts, beautiful sweeping panoramas, lots of spectacle, and dreadful dialogue that pulls you out of the action. I'd even make the case that Episode III is has its roots in the "travelogue" genre.
 
Policar said:
Sith has moments of brilliants and moments of idiocy, and even Clones had a few great sequences towards the end.

For me what's most interesting is to see how George works as a filmmaker. He's very geared towards the processes and sees movies as an entity that's shaped during production--NOT before and after it. He edits as he shoots as he writes, shoots practice runs in advance, does absurd amounts of concept art. It's totally the opposite of what Hitchock, for instance, might do, and it's an approach that has problems, but I think the visual grandeur of Episode III vindicates it to some extent. Interestingly, both he and Joss Whedon (a big Star Wars fan, who, as a writer famous for dialogue, is not such a big fan of the prequels) called Sith essentially a "silent film." It really is. There are fast cuts, beautiful sweeping panoramas, lots of spectacle, and dreadful dialogue that pulls you out of the action. I'd even make the case that Episode III is has its roots in the "travelogue" genre.
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Good points. What bugs me most about the dialogue issues of the prequels isn't the awful lines in general but the actors who delivered them. You can't believe Natalie Portman when she clearly doesn't believe a word she's saying or Hayden when he has one emotion---bland.

Better delivery wouldn't have made the lines Shakespeare but would have made them tolerable...hello, Harrison--Laugh it up fuzzball.
 
If it was any other movie then I would most likely be ripping it apart and laughing at anyone who thought it was at all decent. Since it is Star Wars though, a saga that shaped my youth more than any other cinema piece, I can't rip it apart. I enjoyed Phantom Menace, own all the movies and saw them in the theatre multiple times. I would love to rip these apart, point out the flaws, but I can't do it.

That is why I am a fanboy and completely skewed when it comes to opinion.
 
TheYankee said:
If it was any other movie then I would most likely be ripping it apart and laughing at anyone who thought it was at all decent. Since it is Star Wars though, a saga that shaped my youth more than any other cinema piece, I can't rip it apart. I enjoyed Phantom Menace, own all the movies and saw them in the theatre multiple times. I would love to rip these apart, point out the flaws, but I can't do it.

That is why I am a fanboy and completely skewed when it comes to opinion.
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Good point in that I think it being a "Star Wars" movie it opens up a whole different level of criticism... and, Lucas bashing seems to be in these days.

-R
 
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