Epic and Scarlet release in 2010

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mcgeedigital said:
That makes no sense.
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Actually, it does make sense if you followed that particular thread. I think it was along the lines of discussing the Red One and LCD screens other than Red's LCD screen and how they use certain display modes that don't play well with other LCD/EVF solutions. In other words, they kind of hard coded how it works and didn't allow tweaks for other resolutions.

What people are worried about is that while you can get something to display, they wonder if it is optimal or if the EVF even supports the resolution coming out of the Scarlet/Epic/Red One.

I have no experience with it, but if you find the thread, you can see what issues they were concerned with. Maybe they aren't a real issue anymore and Red has updated their firmware to be more adaptable to other displays. That said, I wouldn't trust it to be a non-issue.
 
Yeah, that's the nightmare I ran into when trying to use a professional monitor with the Red One. They used a relatively rare/nonstandard HDMI mode, which many monitors didn't support. 1280x848 or something like that. If the Redrock EVF doesn't support that mode, then yeah, it won't work with the Scarlet.
 
Scarlet and Epic unlike Red 1, will have independently configurable video outputs. It should be possible to use the Zacuto EVF on the HDMI port in a standard 720p clean feed output. May not get the data display or look around area with it though.
 
Barry_Green said:
Yeah, that's the nightmare I ran into when trying to use a professional monitor with the Red One. They used a relatively rare/nonstandard HDMI mode, which many monitors didn't support. 1280x848 or something like that. If the Redrock EVF doesn't support that mode, then yeah, it won't work with the Scarlet.
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Could it have been 1280 x 860? That's a photography standard.

Oddly enough the ManhattanLCD screens, which were HDTV controlers wedded to notebook computer screens, have that as a native mode. When you try to run an 1920 x 1080 video on them they go to 1360x860 and chop off 80 pixels on the sides.
 
Well I just read the Epic-S (Scarlet S35) body only is closer to $12k now. SO freaking glad I pre-ordered an AF100. $7k was pushing it for me, and $8k was just about out of reach for now, but $12k, out of my league. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the camera isn't worth the cost, as I think it is awesome, but budget is budget and Red just pushed me out of it for now.

Maybe 2012 for me. Time to get cracking and get some stuff done! :)
 
Just listening to the headaches of what will work with what... or not... along with which modules you will need to buy if you want to plug a mic in... or monitor out... or store data...
It's like going to a car dealership and having the salesman say... "so, do you want a steering wheel with that?.... seats?... "

Personally, I'm SO looking forward to the AF100 (and it is a highly personal decision) because I just love the picture that Panasonic cameras put out. Also, I won't have such a learning curve as a lot of the workings are supposed to be familiar to its predecessors. And it will actually work as a system. We can plug a mic in without a special module...

Cheers everybody... won't be long now. My new workstation will be ready this week and I've got a commercial in the pipeline with a short fuse... I hope I can get up to speed in time... if not there's still the "old trusty" DVX and CS3 system... I don't believe in creating vacuums... better to phase in and out... Still excited though!
 
Epic and Scarlet both have outputs for RED touch screen LCD's and HDMI output to any external monitor on the brains. Epic also has HDSDI out on the brains. All of the brains also have two balanced mic/line inputs with phantom power on 3.5mm TRS mini-jacks recording sound at up to 24 bit 48kHz. No external modules required. The I/O modules add broadcast camera type I/O with genlock and HDSDI, timecode I/O and external power and GPIO control ports. There are mini-XLR inputs on the base I/O module and full sized XLR inputs for analog and AES digital audio on the pro I/O module. But neither is necessary for a fully functional camera. Choice of RED or third party monitors or EVF's are up to you as is the choice of recording media, though it doesn't make much sense to go with anything but the SSD's for media IMO. You don't have to buy or pay for functions or components you don't need.
Unlike the RED 1, the HDMI and HDSDI outs are independently configurable for standard 720p and 1080p outputs, either clean industry standard video formats for external monitors or recorders or with menu functions displayed.
 
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Razz16mm , every post you make sounds like a brochure copy and paste for RED. You should ask for a job, seriously.
 
stockfuel said:
Razz16mm , every post you make sounds like a brochure copy and paste for RED. You should ask for a job, seriously.
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Hey! I resemble that remark!

Yes I am a fan of RED, and have followed closely the development of the new cameras. There is a lot of FUD posted about these cameras and I think people should have accurate info to base potential buying decisions on, whether it is the right choice for them or not.

Red to me is the most significant breath of fresh air in a staid slow moving industry in 30 years. I have waited patiently for Scarlet's release and haven't seen anything else emerge in the interim that is half as interesting a creative tool.
 
Razz16mm said:
There is a lot of FUD posted about these cameras and I think people should have accurate info to base potential buying decisions on, whether it is the right choice for them or not.
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As long as they can say "everything subject to change" there is no such thing as accurate info to base potential buying decisions on.

I'm interested in RED, I might even buy one... but paraphrasing Jim's posts is a useless exercise, when the specs and price are constantly shifting.
 
Hasn't HDRx been added to every model, Epic and Scarlet alike? That's why there was a $1,000 price increase for all Scarlet models, right?
 
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