editing increments smaller than 00:00:00:01... help...

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dajavudesigns

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how can i edit in smaller increments, i am editing a music video with the drum roll and in the timeline ive switched to show audio units and that doesnt do the trick, its like it snaps to 00:00:00:01 and it doesnt quite do the trick, the timing always ends up off on them, i need to be able to at least cut about 4 times smaller to get it a lot closer, i took the snap off under sequence and thats doesnt help, i know it has to be something small that i dont know about like a slide option or slip or something so u can get very precise, help me out if you know...
 
i just read that "Premiere works at frame-accuracy so the smallest increment you can cut is 1/25th of a second - 1 frame"

i feel like if i can put the red cursor thingy where i want to edit i should be able to cut right there and put video right there, i need precision like that, is premiere not able to get that precise? if so what is a better option for a pc, im using p2 footage so it has to be a compatible program
 
i found out alt + , or alt +. nudges the the clip one frame to the right or left, how can i nudge 1/24th of a frame? thats what im trying to figure out, as the audio cant be moved or edited, the song is finished, i just need to sync the video very precisely
 
I am not familiar with Premiere, but in the NLEs I am familiar with that have subframe audio accuracy, you do subframe audio syncing by slipping the audio track by less than a frame, not by cutting the video track in the middle of a frame (which really doesn't make any sense to me as something that even could be done). In final cut, for example, you use the curser to mark where you want to move your audio, not to somehow cut the video in the middle of a frame. Unlink your audio and video tracks so that you can move the audio independently and take a look at the audio portions of your user guide to see if you find your answers there.

Hope that makes sense in the context of Premiere.

Kevin
 
Set your sequence settings for audio to display "audio samples"
Unlink the video & audio tracks
In the timeline fly-out menu, checkmark "show audio time units"
Right click the counter to show "audio samples" instead of miliseconds
Now nudging the audio with alt+arrowkey or dragging the audio track should be subframe

I don't think you can move video. I'm unclear as to why you don't want to move the audio? Isn't moving either audio or video just relative to each other?
 
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You can't be any more accurate than the timebase at which your video was originally recorded. In other words, if you shot at 24p (23.976p), you only have 24 subdivisions of a second ("frames") that are viable edit points. If you shot at 30p/60i, you only have 30 subdivisions, and if you shot at 60p, you have 60 subdivisions. That's because each frame is a discrete temporal unit; a full frame has to appear at a given subdivision of time, dictated by the footage timebase and the sequence timebase. This is not a limitation of Premiere; this is simply a natural fact when dealing with video.

Audio can be edited to much smaller increments, because its sampling rate is many orders of magnitude larger than that of video. Whereas video is sampled 24, 30, or 60 times a second (depending on its frame rate), audio is usually sampled at something like 44,100 or 48,000 times per second. So, editing audio has the capability of being 2000 times more precise than video.

If you can't move your audio, then all you can do is get close and call it good. There's no other way around it.
 
cbrougham said:
You can't be any more accurate than the timebase at which your video was originally recorded. In other words, if you shot at 24p (23.976p), you only have 24 subdivisions of a second ("frames") that are viable edit points. If you shot at 30p/60i, you only have 30 subdivisions, and if you shot at 60p, you have 60 subdivisions. That's because each frame is a discrete temporal unit; a full frame has to appear at a given subdivision of time, dictated by the footage timebase and the sequence timebase. This is not a limitation of Premiere; this is simply a natural fact when dealing with video.

Audio can be edited to much smaller increments, because its sampling rate is many orders of magnitude larger than that of video. Whereas video is sampled 24, 30, or 60 times a second (depending on its frame rate), audio is usually sampled at something like 44,100 or 48,000 times per second. So, editing audio has the capability of being 2000 times more precise than video.

If you can't move your audio, then all you can do is get close and call it good. There's no other way around it.
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thanks dude, u just explained a whole lot and made a lot that i knew about make a lot more sense
 
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