DVXuser.com Feature movie??

Yeah, I agree with almost everything that was said above.

This bugger needs a producer to make this happen. Someone to helm the entire thing. I can most certainly help to schedule and budget as necessary. A feature of this magnitude with four to five units is going to be insanely hard to organize.

I like the concept of having everyone who wants to participate, participate. I mean, when we are on location, we need a director, DOP, sound op, boom op, continuity, PAs, AD, UPM, Set Designer, Visual Effects coordinator, the list is extensive. So we can get people to help in places. Do I recommend inexperienced people working as an AD? Not in the least.

People will need to work in the areas they know. We have a ton of people on DVX user all the time. That is potentially a lot of people. 25 people writing this thing would kill the script. Same with 27 directors.

But we need someone to produce this who has experience producing. Or if not a lot of experience, someone who is well connected with this board, or someone who doesn't mind making a lot of phone calls.

I too wouldn't mind sending money towards charity, but Isara isn't something I have heard about. And I am not too keen on sending money to an internet 'charity'. I'd much rather see money going to Halo Trust, Water for Sudan, some organization that would actually use the money we give them immediately.

But, I digress.

I think personally this has to be done with crew getting paid. So we can shoot each location on a semi-normal schedule. I mean, break it down, 5 units maybe with an A and B on each independent unit. Shooting 12 hour days, as allowed per contracts, that gives us a good 60 hours to shoot this thing using a 6 day work day. So, that makes the entire production run at maybe 5 weeks. Which is a good number - though dependent on locations. Such ground zero might run longer as we would have some nice effect shots. So every unit could ideally run at the same time in different locations shooting what they need to. Basically this thing can be wrapped in two weeks when each unit works. Though we would still need to budget for 5 weeks since 5 units are running, thats if the units need a week to shoot.

Haha, if that makes any sense what so ever. I mean, this thing, at this stage, works like communism. Works on paper, but not in reality.

So, what does all that mean? We need to plan this thing like crazy. If you ask me, the best way to shoot this is on a normal 6 day 12 hour schedule. If permissible. Since shooting weekends would kill the production especially if we put in any A or B list talent.

(We need to think marketing here too. An A lister or B lister will increase our marketability exponentially -- which also means, weekend shoots might be hard.)

-Matt
 
and fizzles...and fades away...

guys i'll be honest with you for a second. I was the guy that just thought it'd be cool to work together on a feature...no where did I want to take charge, Iam way to inexperienced to try and even phathom trying to take something of this magnitude on and such responsiblilty...

I kinda got cornered b/c i was the guy that spoke up about an idea i had...call it a misteppen move on my part. I still think its a hell of an idea (that i don't want to be incharge of!!) But if this thing can go somewhere under the guidence of someone who knows what the hell to do, by all means please do so... but I can't not sleep another night...i too have a job that requires me to be up at 330am and put on a newscast everymorning....I need my sleep.

I am so down for this just as the guy that helps out not makes things run...not yet anyways let me get some more films under my belt!

Rogan

It's a good idea, Rogan. It just needs honing and some solid organization, I think. It needs to be approached like any other feature film project would be. But it's a great nugget of a plan! I'd like to see it done, and done well.

As a producer as well as a writer, I'd offer to helm this thing. But I'd have to warn you -- I tend to think my ideas are the BEST ideas. Most successful producers probably do. And as I've said before, I'm 'old school' when it comes to story. I like a strong, solid, chronological narrative that gets the audience solidly involved with the main characters. I may not be the best 'team leader'.

But I'm sure there are good team leaders out there. Anybody?
 
What about this.....?

One main producer to oversee everything.

A producer for each shooting location (city). Each producer is responsible for his/her own crew, locations, scheduling, etc. They report to the main producer.

That way, each unit can operate independently of the others, shooting on their own schedules. And delegating responsibilities this way basically gives you 4 producers who are each producing what is essentially a short film -- approx 20 minutes long.

That might simplify things and reduce headaches.
 
David,

I wouldn't mind at all to make this thing happen. I consider myself more a director...but since I'm at film school...and everyone hates producing...I produce a lot of shorts. A full division of my company is going into production services.

I would love to take it on...haha, I was an eagle scout back in the day if that counts for anything. But it's fully dependent on others. I've been here a while, but I don't want to seem like I am stepping on toes to get in there and do it. But I will raise my hand and say I would love to take this on, and (as I am semi-unemployed at the moment) I have free time, as well as methods of scheduling and budgeting.

I am just putting ideas out there for the concept, and am not attached to any of the ideas out there personally. So, there's the objective end of it.

Regardless, my hands up...Wether you want me to do it, that's up to everyone. If not, I can do something else. :)

Matt
 
Addendum to above:

Actually I think David's idea of Unit Producers as well as one Producer to oversee everything would be ideal.

Dunno how exactly that would work yet.
 
I think most of us are used to producing/directing our own work. Maybe a dual role for most of us, with one lead producer to report to and keep us on schedule.

That could work.
 
When I produce, I try to follow one Prime Rule:

"Always hire the best, most talented, most experienced person you can afford for every job."

With that in mind, if it were ME -- and I know it's not -- I would take great care in choosing the right main producer and unit producers. I want the people with the track record to prove they can get the job done on-time and under budget. Not to demean anyone who has been brave enough to volunteer. I would just suggest taking the time to find the best people for the job.

Yet another 2 cents worth from me. :-)
 
When I produce, I try to follow one Prime Rule:

"Always hire the best, most talented, most experienced person you can afford for every job."

With that in mind, if it were ME -- and I know it's not -- I would take great care in choosing the right main producer and unit producers. I want the people with the track record to prove they can get the job done on-time and under budget. Not to demean anyone who has been brave enough to volunteer. I would just suggest taking the time to find the best people for the job.

Yet another 2 cents worth from me. :-)
I think we have to keep in mind that this would mostly be volunteer work. Unless someone is keeping something from me. :)

Everyones body of work speaks for itself. Take a look at it and see if they can be useful. If not, move on. There are plenty of talented fish in the DVX pond.

You just have to find some who will commit to the project.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Actually, I thought we said earlier that cast and crew need to be paid, and therefore investors (or some other source of budget money) need to be brought on board.

Even so, the important thing is finding the RIGHT people, whether they're volunteers or not.
 
The other thing is.....who's going to OWN the finished movie?

Who's going to own any props, supplies, wardrobe, equipment purchased out of the budget and remaining once the project is finished?
 
I suppose I can throw in my quick opinion as well, eh? :)

When the idea was originally proposed I pictured it happening perhaps more like Mike (just above me) did. For example, if each location were only doing a 20-minute short film it would basically be like doing an extended DVXUser fest entry. People volunteer, get their crew and cast locally.

I mean, for our short we shot for two days (a Saturday and Sunday) and really shot a 10-minute film. I had to cut it down to 6-minutes to fit the time requirement but for all intents and purposes it was a 10-minute short.

So, if everyone collaborated in their specific locale to shoot for two weekends why could it not be done? I mean...look at what some of the DVXUser Timefest entries are accomplishing!!! Fat Monster and their work..."Aetas" being shot on the Red in beautiful locations...there are numerous examples of what could be accomplished if it is kept simple and people do it because they are passionate about filmmaking...not because this is their "project to end all projects".

I agree...if something can be arranged so participants see a profit great. Should there be good organization and planning? Absolutely! Does it need to have a good script before shooting? It better or no one will get on board. Should Producers/Directors/etc. be "screened" so that we attain a high level of quality...I think so.

But I think when this gets "too big for its britches" (as we say in Texas), that's when these types of projects don't get off the ground.

That's just my opinion anyway. :)
 
I suppose I can throw in my quick opinion as well, eh? :)

When the idea was originally proposed I pictured it happening perhaps more like Mike (just above me) did. For example, if each location were only doing a 20-minute short film it would basically be like doing an extended DVXUser fest entry. People volunteer, get their crew and cast locally.

I mean, for our short we shot for two days (a Saturday and Sunday) and really shot a 10-minute film. I had to cut it down to 6-minutes to fit the time requirement but for all intents and purposes it was a 10-minute short.

So, if everyone collaborated in their specific locale to shoot for two weekends why could it not be done? I mean...look at what some of the DVXUser Timefest entries are accomplishing!!! Fat Monster and their work..."Aetas" being shot on the Red in beautiful locations...there are numerous examples of what could be accomplished if it is kept simple and people do it because they are passionate about filmmaking...not because this is their "project to end all projects".

I agree...if something can be arranged so participants see a profit great. Should there be good organization and planning? Absolutely! Does it need to have a good script before shooting? It better or no one will get on board. Should Producers/Directors/etc. be "screened" so that we attain a high level of quality...I think so.

But I think when this gets "too big for its britches" (as we say in Texas), that's when these types of projects don't get off the ground.

That's just my opinion anyway. :)

That's fine if you want this movie to look like it was made in 2-3 days.

When you see a film for one of those fest entries, you say "Wow....that was GREAT.....for a movie made in just two days!" But we want a movie that looks and sounds like a REAL movie, don't we? Quality takes time. Getting a great lighting setup takes time. Great camera work takes time.

Yes, if you want to do something in the fest fashion, then that's fine. I wasn't thinking in that direction, but it's a way to go.
 
I think it depends on the crew...

Some of the films I have seen from past DVXUser fests (not most but some) have been comparable to or better than a LOT of indie films...even a fair amount of the ones that get "distribution"!
 
Then people.....is that more what you had in mind? Should we take a vote?

I, for one, don't know how you'd do an end-of-the-world disaster movie in such a short time, but maybe I'm not looking at it right.

Opinions?
 
What about this.....?

One main producer to oversee everything.

A producer for each shooting location (city). Each producer is responsible for his/her own crew, locations, scheduling, etc. They report to the main producer.

That way, each unit can operate independently of the others, shooting on their own schedules. And delegating responsibilities this way basically gives you 4 producers who are each producing what is essentially a short film -- approx 20 minutes long.

That might simplify things and reduce headaches.

I have said this before and I think it's the way to go. We need one person to be the main man (since Dustin doesn't want to be. Matykins offered, so if no one else would like the job, I certainly can't. I am a writer and an actor and I don't have time to be the head honcho of this thing.)

Each location should have it's own Producer and Director and once the story is configured the writing team (lead by me as of now) will get a script out. We will need money and then scripts will be sent to each location to do their work and then one editor or a small group of editors finishes it up.

As far as the money, I say each producer will be responsible for their groups share in working out who gets what. I figure the main guy will do that for the writing and editing and teams that are basically in all four groups. Maybe we could also donate to charity. (Isara is actually a really good organization. Created by a member of this board, all donated money goes to create charity projects in less fortunate countries around the world. Check out the site by clicking the button in my sig.)

This is the only way I see it working because we will have everyone working separately as if on short films, but then put together to create one bad-arse project. If I don't hear any objections, let's get to work. First order of business, electing a President, if you will. Then it's just formality stuff after that, making sure it's all set in stone. This is a pretty good honest group, so things should be pretty fair.

With the props and such I figure each group should deal with that separately, you know? The producer from each sector can decide how that works. This thing is kinda likethe US Government. We have the Federal Sector which consists of the main guy, thwe writing team, the editing team, the musical team, the marketing team, and the team of sub producers. The sub producers are like Governors who run their "states" or locations. What I am trying to say is, somethings need to be left to states to decide and some to the federal government.

I am way too tired to try this, I am probably making crap sense right now so I am going to hit the hay. I have to get up early. Wade through my mess of a post and see if you disagree with anything. It's all been said before, I guess, just trying to put it all together.

My hands hurt from typing all day...
 
Then people.....is that more what you had in mind? Should we take a vote?

I, for one, don't know how you'd do an end-of-the-world disaster movie in such a short time, but maybe I'm not looking at it right.

Opinions?

The way I see it is that it is a full feature basically, quality and all...

Damn, I am supposed to be in bed! Stop giving me crap to talk about! :grin:
 
Maybe we're thinking too big. What about a smaller story?

Let's see........

A girl who is an agoraphobe (fear of open places) is basically a prisoner in her own home. To earn a living, she's wired webcams all over her house and has a pay site where people can see her 24/7 doing anything and, yes, EVERYTHING.

She has a group of friends she only knows online. They send emails, text messages, and do video chats. They're a very close knit group.

But suddenly her friends start disappearing one by one. She eventually realizes they are being targeted by a serial killer -- one who stalks his victims online -- and SHE is his next target!

This could be turned into a more ensemble cast by developing the stories of several of her online friends -- showing them in their daily activities, etc. And then showing how they react when they figure out a killer is after them. Or showing them being killed by the killer. I don't know, just spitballing here.

Any other ideas?
 
Okay, I mean no disrespect at ALL to Matykins. But if I read an earlier post right, he's a student in film school. What is his relevant experience that qualifies him to helm a project of this size and scope?

What I tried to say before is we shouldn't give the most important job on the project to someone just because they're willing to take it. We need practical experience. And the main producer needs a strong vision of the story and its execution. If we choose the wrong main producer, the results will suffer.

Again, not intending insult or disrespect to anyone. Just voicing my opinion.
 
What if everyone interested in this project just takes a moment to list their credits?

I'll start....

Producer:
Three Wishes (Short)
Night Watch (Short)
A Matter of Life (Short)
GM Lektro Training Video (Industrial)
"As Long As It Aint' Here" (Music Video)
Afterlife (feature)
Tangled Web (feature)

Writer:
Three Wishes (Short)
Night Watch (Short)
A Matter of Life (Short)
GM Lektro Training Video (Industrial)
Blood Bath (Story) (feature)
Afterlife (feature)
Tangled Web (feature)
Hallows (Story) (feature)

Director:
Night Watch (short)
Tangled Web (feature)
"As Long As It Ain't Here" (music video)

Editor:
Night Watch (short)
A Matter of Life (short)
"As Long As It Ain't Here" (music video)
GM Lektro Video (Industrial)
Uncovered Fear (short)
Afterlife (feature)
Tangled Web (feature)

Who's next?
 
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What if everyone interested in this project just takes a moment to list their credits?

I'll start....

Producer: Three Wishes (Short)
Night Watch (Short)
A Matter of Life (Short)
GM Lektro Training Video (Industrial)
"As Long As It Aint' Here" (Music Video)
Afterlife (feature)
Tangled Web (feature)

Writer: Three Wishes (Short)
Night Watch (Short)
A Matter of Life (Short)
GM Lektro Training Video (Industrial)

Afterlife (feature)
Tangled Web (feature)

Honestly, proof is in the pudding. Post some links of some previous work so we can see what you have accomplished.

Most of us here have entered a DVXuser Fest or two so our work is around.
 
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