Well, at least in Japan:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...c.biz/sav/camera/ag-dvx100a/ag-dvx100a_p.html
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DVX100A - It's official
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Zoomforce
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Re: DVX100A - It's official
look at this cute little mini dvx
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...x100a/../../top/../news/031117/031117_01.html
look at this cute little mini dvx
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...x100a/../../top/../news/031117/031117_01.html
Flintstone
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Re: DVX100A - It's official
Wonderful english... It's like all of my other made in Asia product user manuals. Kinda makes you feel at home? :-/
There's only one thing I can say about the new DVX100A...
AWESOME, COOL, KILLER, FANTASTIC...
Okay, so that was four things. Can't wait to get my hands on my new DVX100A. ;D Hope I don't have to wait too long. :'(
Wonderful english... It's like all of my other made in Asia product user manuals. Kinda makes you feel at home? :-/
There's only one thing I can say about the new DVX100A...
AWESOME, COOL, KILLER, FANTASTIC...
Okay, so that was four things. Can't wait to get my hands on my new DVX100A. ;D Hope I don't have to wait too long. :'(
donbarzini
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Re: DVX100A - It's official
RCE, I couldn't agree with you more. I'm hoping a bunch of people dump their barely used DVX100's to get the "A" model and I'll pick up another.
RCE, I couldn't agree with you more. I'm hoping a bunch of people dump their barely used DVX100's to get the "A" model and I'll pick up another.
Flintstone
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Re: DVX100A - It's official
I don't have a DVX yet, so for me, it's not a question of dumping the old one to get the latest.
What's different other then slower shutter speeds? Read the bablefish and the expandore web pages. Knee control, auto focus and gain in progressive (good for run and gun events where 24p is needed; remember, not everyone makes movies), b/w viewfinder, better control on zoom and focus rings, guard for user dial, more gamma control, and much more.
I understand people's frustrations that already have the DVX100. It's instinctual to justify the insignificance in changes to any new model coming out, especially if the purchase was recent. It’s a self-justification that is normal human nature; it is our way to combat the obsolescence syndrome that affects us all in some form or another. In all honesty, the changes are not paradigm shifts. It’s just an update. Think of it as a Service Pack for Windows! If you had the chance to choose between both, side by side, ask yourself one question, which one would you take? And why?
Is it worth it to sell the old to get the new? No! It’s the same thing with the Sony PD150 vs. PD170. It would be good if a upgrade kit would be available, as everyone hopes. Every DVX owner sees at least one item in the list of changes that appeals to them; that I am sure of. Again, will they swap cams for it? It would be unlikely! Aside for the fact they’d need a second cam, or they find some unlikely person to buy it for a real good price, or their cam too a 30 minute dip in water (don't laugh, it happened to me, but that's another story!).
I don't have a DVX yet, so for me, it's not a question of dumping the old one to get the latest.
What's different other then slower shutter speeds? Read the bablefish and the expandore web pages. Knee control, auto focus and gain in progressive (good for run and gun events where 24p is needed; remember, not everyone makes movies), b/w viewfinder, better control on zoom and focus rings, guard for user dial, more gamma control, and much more.
I understand people's frustrations that already have the DVX100. It's instinctual to justify the insignificance in changes to any new model coming out, especially if the purchase was recent. It’s a self-justification that is normal human nature; it is our way to combat the obsolescence syndrome that affects us all in some form or another. In all honesty, the changes are not paradigm shifts. It’s just an update. Think of it as a Service Pack for Windows! If you had the chance to choose between both, side by side, ask yourself one question, which one would you take? And why?
Is it worth it to sell the old to get the new? No! It’s the same thing with the Sony PD150 vs. PD170. It would be good if a upgrade kit would be available, as everyone hopes. Every DVX owner sees at least one item in the list of changes that appeals to them; that I am sure of. Again, will they swap cams for it? It would be unlikely! Aside for the fact they’d need a second cam, or they find some unlikely person to buy it for a real good price, or their cam too a 30 minute dip in water (don't laugh, it happened to me, but that's another story!).
Barry_Green
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Re: DVX100A - It's official
Okay, first things first -- I was obviously dead wrong, and the camera is legit.
Secondly, the key differentiating factor here is not just the features, but the price. It'll have a street price of probably around $4000, or about $1000 more than the DVX100. More of a difference than the DVC80 to the DVX100. So keep that in mind -- $2300 for a DVC80, up to $3100 for a DVX100, up to about $4000-$4200 for a DVX100/A, and the upgrades start to make more sense.
To me the most interesting updates are the 12-bit DSP, and the "peaking" circuitry in the viewfinder, which will help you make pinpoint focus a lot easier. The viewfinder isn't b/w, but it has an option to drop the color out and see the image in b/w. AF in 24P also doesn't look like true autofocus... Panasonic originally said they disabled AF because the response time was just too slow... with only 24 samples per second (as opposed to 60) they couldn't get good reliable snappy focus. But now they said something in there about "focus aid" -- which would seem to be saying that you can use the AF circuitry to lock in focus, but you still may not want to use it as full-fledged AF all the time.
Minimum focus distance drops to 2' instead of 3', which is nice. Onboard 16x9 could be nice, depends on how good the results are, and I'm betting that Panasonic got it right, so I bet onboard 16x9 does better than post-stretching.
Overall, it looks pretty good. I wish it would have provided for remote focus control and on-board de-anamorphosizing of the anamorphic adapter's image, but you can't have everything. Would I sell my DVX to get this one? Don't know yet, but I'm leaning against it, I don't think I'd justify the $2000 or so upgrade price (selling DVX cheap, and then paying top dollar to get a DVX/A). If I was in the market for a new one, would I spring the extra dough to get the /A? Oh yeah, no doubt.
Would I send them $250 to upgrade my DVX to the /A? In a heartbeat. It'll never happen, of course -- but it sure would be nice!
Okay, first things first -- I was obviously dead wrong, and the camera is legit.
Secondly, the key differentiating factor here is not just the features, but the price. It'll have a street price of probably around $4000, or about $1000 more than the DVX100. More of a difference than the DVC80 to the DVX100. So keep that in mind -- $2300 for a DVC80, up to $3100 for a DVX100, up to about $4000-$4200 for a DVX100/A, and the upgrades start to make more sense.
To me the most interesting updates are the 12-bit DSP, and the "peaking" circuitry in the viewfinder, which will help you make pinpoint focus a lot easier. The viewfinder isn't b/w, but it has an option to drop the color out and see the image in b/w. AF in 24P also doesn't look like true autofocus... Panasonic originally said they disabled AF because the response time was just too slow... with only 24 samples per second (as opposed to 60) they couldn't get good reliable snappy focus. But now they said something in there about "focus aid" -- which would seem to be saying that you can use the AF circuitry to lock in focus, but you still may not want to use it as full-fledged AF all the time.
Minimum focus distance drops to 2' instead of 3', which is nice. Onboard 16x9 could be nice, depends on how good the results are, and I'm betting that Panasonic got it right, so I bet onboard 16x9 does better than post-stretching.
Overall, it looks pretty good. I wish it would have provided for remote focus control and on-board de-anamorphosizing of the anamorphic adapter's image, but you can't have everything. Would I sell my DVX to get this one? Don't know yet, but I'm leaning against it, I don't think I'd justify the $2000 or so upgrade price (selling DVX cheap, and then paying top dollar to get a DVX/A). If I was in the market for a new one, would I spring the extra dough to get the /A? Oh yeah, no doubt.
Would I send them $250 to upgrade my DVX to the /A? In a heartbeat. It'll never happen, of course -- but it sure would be nice!
Re: DVX100A - It's official
Yeah, I'm still a fan of the slow shutter speeds (available in 24p no less), but the new "enriched" color matrix and implementation of Varicam Cine-gamma is even more exciting for me. The 2 foot minimum focus is also an incredible (and non-software) addition that I certainly didn't expect. Squeeze mode isn't true anamorphic, but it certainly is better than having to post-stretch, if my experience with DVCPro25 broadcast camcorders is any indication. Color bars in 24p is something that always should have been there, I'm glad to see it.
As the end of the school year approaches, I know what camera I'll be buying, I'll say that much.
Will
Yeah, I'm still a fan of the slow shutter speeds (available in 24p no less), but the new "enriched" color matrix and implementation of Varicam Cine-gamma is even more exciting for me. The 2 foot minimum focus is also an incredible (and non-software) addition that I certainly didn't expect. Squeeze mode isn't true anamorphic, but it certainly is better than having to post-stretch, if my experience with DVCPro25 broadcast camcorders is any indication. Color bars in 24p is something that always should have been there, I'm glad to see it.
As the end of the school year approaches, I know what camera I'll be buying, I'll say that much.
Will
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Zoomforce
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Re: DVX100A - It's official
you want the new DVX english brochure? here it is:
http://www.dvxuser.com/image/sp-dvx100ap1.pdf
you want the new DVX english brochure? here it is:
http://www.dvxuser.com/image/sp-dvx100ap1.pdf
Re: DVX100A - It's official
Thanks to everyone for the info on the new features...especially Stone and Barry! In no way am I disappointed in having just purchased the DVX100 and not waiting for the 100A. I love the camera and it works great for me NOW. I just was not getting the importance of the new features when I was reading the specs on BabbleFish.
Thanks to everyone for the info on the new features...especially Stone and Barry! In no way am I disappointed in having just purchased the DVX100 and not waiting for the 100A. I love the camera and it works great for me NOW. I just was not getting the importance of the new features when I was reading the specs on BabbleFish.