DVX Television Pilot "The Pit" (new scene)

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krimson-noiro

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Hello everyone,

Here's the latest clip from our TV pilot called "The Pit", a television show about two rival undercover street crime teams forced to work together under federal supervision. You can check out the clip here:

http://www.youtube.com/?v=DvKKCAnfbvg

You can also check out screen grabs and other information about the show here:

http://www.thepittvpilot.bravehost.com

Thanks again to all of you who looked over and commented on our last clip, your comments and insight were a great help...and, thanks again to everyone on this board and the community of DVX users, your passion and your generosity has helped us to create many inspired projects.

All the best,
Richard Todd Aguayo
Krimson-Noiro Productions
 
shadow_dog_dx said:
that look awesome, i liked the look of it but there is a interlace problem.
is still awesome tho keep it up.
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Great sound, great look, but I agree about the interlacing.
 
Adam E said:
looked awesome! id love to see it at better quality on a tv. keep it up!




adam
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I second that. I liked the style and the sound. But I have a question. Are they suppose to be cops? If so cops can't fire their weapons into the air like that. Besides that everything else looked great. I can't wait to see more!
 
Hey there...

Thanks for the comments. As far as the "interlacing" problem, does it appear as if it's an internal problem (from the source material) or just that fact that the clip has to be compressed so much in order to place it on the site? Let me know, and also, what might some suggestions to to remedy the problem either way.

Oh, and on a side note, yes, they are cops, but they're TV cops...and just like Starsky&Hutch (TV version, not the movie) or Miami Vice, TV cops can do things real cops can't (like catch the bad guy AND get the girl :))
Thanks again,
RTA
 
I really would LOVE to see some QUICKTIME versions of this. would like to see it in higher quality.
You have some really great actors though, however I think they are OVER ACTING. Just a little bit. It's really heard to find that medium, some of it looks way to stylized for my tastes. The white guy, seems like he couldn't fool anyone by acting, "hip". He's really fake at acting like a drug dealer, or undercover. I think a more gritty atmosphere would help this pilot, instead of it looking so warm. It's very distracting. That could be compression though.

I think the dialouge is really bad though, honestly. I can't give any tips on dialouge, because I just write what I feel. But, it just feels very fake to me. The reactions between the characters seem very forced, and I don't think the actors themselves are listening to eachothers lines. I think they're just saying them.
 
I think whoever is behind this defianately has a penchant for moviemaking and it is this very reason I am going to harp on it

My reservation on it is the talent's inability to act and the forced 'hand-held'.

These are the kind of actors that one sees on Public Access; maybe it's the dialogue the talent is trying to juggle ? I don't know. I thought the actor's suked as did the writing


And wy do filmmakers always try so hard to hand-hold the camera ? It will appear hand-held by being hand-held.

And the Snap-Zooms. Jesus. Enough with the Snap Zooms already.

I found the CC interesting but the above gripes made me more aware of the CC for some reason

I think this needs work.
 
I would agree totally with Hudson on the first part. The acting and writing seemed like somebody was trying to hard to make this "street".

As for the shooting, I liked it. I can understand the temptation to use that "style". Yes, its done too much these days, but in a strange way I think this style has permeated the scene so much that it almost HELPS make it more believable. Whether we like it or not, I think the viewing audience likes this stuff. Good luck with the pilot and thanks for sharing.
-Ryan
 
Isn't The Wire already on HBO? Not trying to be a tool, but man... we've "got" The Shield and all the others fulfilling the "cops who do whatever the f*** they want" slot.

For a while, we even had firefighters who do whatever the f*** they want - starring Dennis Leary (just kill me now). All this crap is like a giant commercial for the Anti Mid-Atlantic Touristry Commission. Hey, honey! Let's pack up the kids and go to Baltimore for the weekend!

If you're stuck on the region, can't we have a nice series that revolves around shopping for sweatshirts featuring anchors or tall ships in St. Michaels or Annapolis?

Enough about this totally spent, lame, supertense and overacted genre.

On the acting notes, I'll just say that this is on par with NBCs Vegas series. I honestly don't know if you take that as a compliment or...

Anyway, it's good to see someone investing time and effort with their camera for TV. There is a huge appetite for content right now, with new outlets coming online regularly. What you've done so far will open doors - even if this particular show doesn't have legs.

Tweak the dialogue a little bit, find a hook that gets you away from that HBO mimickry you've got going on and I think you have something.

Keep producing!

e
 
krimson-noiro said:
As far as the "interlacing" problem, does it appear as if it's an internal problem (from the source material) or just that fact that the clip has to be compressed so much in order to place it on the site?
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It's not that it is compressed "too much" but rather just compressed improperly. Try deinterlacing the footage first, or if it is already progressive, then encode it at the same frame rate as the original. Personally, I couldn't stand several things about the way this clip was done, starting with the look. For me, the highlights are way too blown out and the yellow look is just too much for me... too much yellow... although I suppose it does reduce any possiblity of racial discrimination as no matter if the actor is black or white, they all become yellow... in which case, that is great use of yellow to symbolize racial unity!

Ok, now seriously, I couldn't stand the zooms and over-forced handheld style of filming, which John and others mentioned. It was way too distracting... to the point that I couldn't concentrate on the actual content... plus when you overdo it like that, it tends to look amateurish. Of course, some people raved over the way the Bourne Supremacy was filmed, while I practically vomitted because I couldn't stand it... and I was sitting too close to the screen!

Anyway, the point that I'm trying to get at is that filming style and coloration shouldn't be the only thing that draws your audience in. There is certainly an appropriate time and use for the style that you did, but I didn't feel that the content and the style matched at any given point. You're content and style should work together to draw the audience in... the style you use should really compliment the story you're trying to get across.

Hope this was in some way helpful and I apologize for not writing much positive... this type of show really doesn't interest me anyway, so don't take offense that I didn't have many good things to say! I did think the overall composition was good and there were plenty of good shot ideas, but they seemed to get pushed over the edge by trying to force them to be "artistic". Anyway, just my thoughts on it. Hope the show does well!!

-pastywhiteboy
 
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