dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

  • should have sold, boo hoo

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  • scots git: (should have sold, boo hoo, im a bad loser)

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  • i wouldnt have sold till after now anyway

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  • glad i kept it, i couldnt have afforded not to sell before now

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Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

Does it really matter WHAT we shoot on? Just go out and start bloody shooting something, whether its Super8mm, Hi8 Video, DV, HDV....who cares! Just shoot something and enjoy and learn.
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

[quote author=geffy link=board=HDV;num=1108567176;start=75#78 date=02/26/05 at 11:28:50]
it would look better itd be 16:9  full frame, which for me is the problem with dvx100, also shooting dv allows me to process the footage. lat and light performance lost from hdv to dv or new hdv to dvx100? very silly or just misunderstood? :-/
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Two things. The 16:9 on the HDV should be compared in resolution to the DVX squeeze. You may well be surprized. Combine that with the fact that the HDV camera does not do a progressive capture(no 24P or 30P), less dyanmic range and a cinegamma, that looks on a scope more black compress. I still fully believe the DVX would win out in this DV to DV comparison. You should do this one for yourself before you purchase.

Best regards,

Jan
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

Does it really matter WHAT we shoot on? Just go out and start bloody shooting something, whether its Super8mm, Hi8 Video, DV, HDV....who cares! Just shoot something and enjoy and learn."
course it matters! as you will no doubt learn when you view your footage, or when an editor turns round and says why didnt you......... if you shoot to pass the time.. enjoy yourself :)
"The 16:9 on the HDV should be compared in resolution to the DVX squeeze. I still fully believe the DVX would win out in this DV to DV comparison."
"The 16:9 on the HDV should be compared in resolution to the DVX squeeze. You may well be surprized. Combine that with the fact that the HDV camera does not do a progressive capture(no 24P"
id love to, why dont you send me one, it would answer everybodys question, no progressive capture! i dont want one!! are you sure your talking about the new panasonic?
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

No she's not talking about the new Panasonic, because the new Panasonic is not HDV. She's talking about the Sony HDV camera.
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=HDV;num=1108567176;start=75#84 date=02/27/05 at 19:48:14]No she's not talking about the new Panasonic, because the new Panasonic is not HDV.  She's talking about the Sony HDV camera. "The new camera will record high-definition video, using DVCPRO-HD (not HDV[/quote]
so is it really different or is it the same thing with different names?
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

Have you read any of the other threads in this forum? No they're not the same. Read (or reread) all the threads in this forum for differences.
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

[quote author=Isaac Brody link=board=HDV;num=1108567176;start=75#86 date=02/27/05 at 20:49:28]Have you read any of the other threads in this forum? No they're not the same. Read (or reread) all the threads in this forum for differences. [/quote]
"5)  The new camera supports several recording formats: high-definition using DVCPRO-HD (with 4:2:2 color sampling in a 100-megabit data stream); standard-def using DVCPRO-50 (with 4:2:2 color sampling in a 50-megabit data stream, basically a recording format equivalent to Digital Betacam); and standard-def video using miniDV or DVCPRO-25 (4:1:1 video in a 25-megabit data stream) "
point is im not talking about the sony but the panasonic! so the 16:9 being compared is not the sony hdv but the panasonic dvpro, which was the point in the first place! to make it easy ill spell it out, apart from price and time why buy dvx100 with or without squeeze lens if the new panasonic hdx? p2? can record dv or better in 16:9 native! and how would this looked mixed with dv100 footage
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

You said you were thinking of using an HDV camera and that is the question Jan answered. New camera is not HDV.
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

Excluding all the legit VIDEO techs and videographers here-

You hopeful movie makers that frequent these types of lists are becoming way too dependent on technology. I understand the social connection here but really, these new cameras and their differences mean nothing.

The "filmmakers" here, which is an overused term by the way, need to look at FILM or high end HD cameras anyway for making movies. And this is not the job of writer or director really generally. It's a decision that comes much later down the line when money is going into an account.

You should stop wasting your parents/friends/your money on gear. You aren't going to build a "studio" with it that will ever return the cash. These micro DV movies that are spit out every year are also a drain on the guys making real ind. films. It's also sad to see so many young guys get talked into the fact that tehy can do "anything" from their well0meaning parents. Chances are extremely good that it will never go anywhere... this leads to more depression and anxiety problems that at least us in the more developed countries do not need more of!

And yes, I know all about the micro few films (videos?) that have made it from a DV source. But you know what their chances are? About 1 in 6000, if that. Not something you should think about, plus people, meaning audiences, are getting tired of it already. There needs to be a reason to go out to a theatre!
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

Excluding all the legit VIDEO techs and videographers here-

You hopeful movie makers that frequent these types of lists are becoming way too dependent on technology. I understand the social connection here but really, these new cameras and their differences mean nothing.  

The "filmmakers" here, which is an overused term by the way, need to look at FILM or high end HD cameras anyway for making movies. And this is not the job of writer or director really generally. It's a decision that comes much later down the line when money is going into an account.

You should stop wasting your parents/friends/your money on gear. You aren't going to build a "studio" with it that will ever return the cash. These micro DV movies that are spit out every year are also a drain on the guys making real ind. films. It's also sad to see so many young guys get talked into the fact that tehy can do "anything" from their well0meaning parents. Chances are extremely good that it will never go anywhere... this leads to more depression and anxiety problems that at least us in the more developed countries do not need more of!

And yes, I know all about the micro few films (videos?) that have made it from a DV source. But you know what their chances are? About 1 in 6000, if that. Not something you should think about, plus people, meaning audiences, are getting tired of it already. There needs to be a reason to go out to a theatre!
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I've never heard such arrogant nonsense. What is your purpose in coming into one of the most creative BBs on the net and rubbishing people for what they enjoy, aspire to and (in many cases) earn a living from? These people aren't sitting on their arses waiting for something to happen - they are out there doing, learning and earning and they happen to share on this board. They happen to have a wonderful tool available that allows them to make movies/docs NOW and be creative NOW - to speculate with their ideas and make them a reality without waiting for 'THE MONEY'. Why so threatened by that? If you're excluding all 'legit' contributors from your rant, who do you think is left?

From a 50 year old videographer who earns his living by what he does, who loves the film look and is determinrd to do the best work he can with a little help from his friends here.
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

CineCell: People, audiences or public, are not getting tired of Minidv films. In fact, they are starting to appreciate it by what they are. Stories.

If i want make short films or features i don´t wanna go for the big money. Look what happened to The Aviator tonight. If you take so good script as Million Dollar Bay is, Take Clint away, take the big names away, and change everything from DV to borrowed Locations, you get (well not the same) but a pretty good story ANYWAY. And people will wach it regarding the resolution in the screen.

More, audiences are eager to choose this little films because they aren´t probably the same as big studios ten in a row fotocopies.

If they don´t earn lot of money, well, good thing they haven´t been expensive. If they are a hit, they will be remembered for what they are, rulebreakers, auteurs, foresighting people, whatever. I wanna be one of those rather than get suck in the system. If i don´t reach that far... man, it´s impossible i don´t reach that far; i LOVE writing, if i´m not good i have edditing, if i´m not good, i love producing, if i´m not good, i will always have directing (and directing is more of knowing how to ask people surrounding you and good common sense than other thing, and i have lot of that.)

For the price of a CineAlta, or a Varicam, or a renting for four weeks equipment people here in this place can make really good things. Heart and mind do more than HD or 35mm. If you don´t believe it, take a look around.
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

most important thing is everybody starts somewhere and if anybody wants to do something creative they have to be encouraged where it leads isnt importent its being on the path...................
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

geffy you are right. if you tell somebody: You won´t go anywhere with DVX, go for Varicam and big bucks, most people would give up (if it was real, lucky it is not). it´s like you need to go for film shcool to do something worth the try. If i were not so kind person i would feel insulted. But it just makes me smile.
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

[quote author=mr._guiyotinne link=board=HDV;num=1108567176;start=90#95 date=02/28/05 at 01:15:50]. if you tell somebody: You won´t go anywhere with DVX, go for Varicam and big bucks, most people would give up quote]
I always liked the nike add "just do it" i just wished theyd expanded a little ie. "in the end just do it" Anyone who puts you off doing things is just worried about their own situation. As long as you do things thinking and preparing , it'll always be worth it, success , personel development, happiness, natashi ;)..................
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

in answer to a recent email i sent: "hi im interested but as its an old model im not sure what are th differences between it and the a?" Mainly the difference is the auto focus with 25P and some differences with 16:9 - not 100% sure as "Im not a techie... "
ultimate link for dvx100?
http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/#Whats_the_DVX100P
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

[quote author=braw link=board=HDV;num=1108567176;start=0#12 date=02/16/05 at 11:14:49]

He must have. Perhaps it's the language barrier. I doubt anyone could genuinely mean that!  :P
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A Canadian language barrier, that is!
 
Re: dvx 100 prices moniter: blame the hdx100

poll update:
seems a lot of dvx owners are pushing their cams before they sell them on ebay ;D
 
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