DVD tutorials on narative lighting?

Wanted to know if you guys know of any narative lighting tutorials in movie form. I don't need to learn 3 point or soft vs hard lighting I'm looking for something advanced.
 
I haven't found anything good. Best way to learn is to watch the pros!

Things like rogerdeakins.com and American Cinematographer can help you in this.
 
Wanted to know if you guys know of any narative lighting tutorials in movie form. I don't need to learn 3 point or soft vs hard lighting I'm looking for something advanced.


I thought Barry Green has posted a lighting DVD tutorial offering. Have you reviewed that, and want something more? No... oops that's a sound DVD... maybe he's working on a lighting offering...

I did buy a book at NAB in March, but I don't have it handy to see if it goes beyond the basics... I'll update the info when I can.

However, having looked at still photo tutorial books for years, I wonder if at this point, you should spend a lot of time just analyzing
shots you like, and trying to reverse engineer the lighting setup. The Wife and I do this quite abit for magazine ads, and now still shots on the web.

The other thing, is to get a group of people who are interested in the subject, and models who would like perhaps either stills or clips, and then attempt to recreate some set of setups.


Update:

Here's a url to a series of books. I have the "Motion Picture and Video Lighting" title.

http://textbooks.elsevier.com/mediatechnology/film_video_lighting.html
 
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Ever since I started in this business (about 4 or 5 years ago) I have been in search of a good lighting dvd that would emphasize narrative, but have always come up dry. There are some great books but really when it comes to DVD's there just isn't much that goes beyond basic lighting aka interviews etc...I can't tell you how many times I was excited to watch a dvd and low and behold the "how to light a single person interview" pops up and eats up 90 percent of the DVD. Honestly the best lighting tutorials are simply watching movies and study the look. You can tell a lot by paying attention to the direction, falloff, softness/hardness of the shadows, then as said earlier in this post try to mimic it...it's by far the best way to learn on your own...but when opportunity knocks get next to people who know what they're doing, that's pure GOLD!
 
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