Do you credit the equipment hire company?

My personal opinion would be that if they donate any gear or give any special rates, then credit them with a "Special Thanks To" but otherwise, probably not.
 
Panavision requires it. As do I, in my contract, I state that my company gets a "Weapons provided by" credit and I get a credit for "Set Armorer" if I wrangle on set.
 
If you ever sit through all the credits you'll see that many are listed at the end of the credits, even in shorts (when you have the budget to hire any company....).
 
Of course you do.


Simple.


Ever notice that Panavision, Otto, Clairmont, and other companies are thanked or noted with logos at the end of a film? Chapman and Fisher request those as well. You'll also notice other logos such as Kodak, a post facility and others.

You should thank everyone who contributes to the film, unless they do a considerably bad job.
 
And getting some logos to appear at the end of the credits is always nice. Sometimes (for example me last week) a producer will like something about your film and are imagine they are preping a movie. They can watch the film credits and see who did what. For example if someone liked the guns in a film they go to the credits and see Doc's company name there, and give him a call. At least I did that the other day for a film editing company.
 
For example if someone liked the guns in a film they go to the credits and see Doc's company name there, and give him a call. At least I did that the other day for a film editing company.

Right so these companies are forcing you to advertise for them, without any compensation.
 
Right so these companies are forcing you to advertise for them, without any compensation.

Sure,
But you are also being credited for doing for example the cinematography, should you be credited or not? in essence credits are advertising you get for contributing to the creation of something or don't you use a film's name on your CV or use the images on your reel.

If you don't like what they did and they don't have anything written on the contract don't credit them....
 
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Okay I see. I suppose this could be a negotiating tactic but at the same time, its a useless weapon if you have no films under your belt.
 
Yup. Welcome to the entertainment business.

Well actually, it's pretty damn close to goodbye to the entertainment business, for me. I've been trying to do a film for over 9 years and always hit dead ends. Between this, dealing with unions, and never being able to find money to actually shoot anything, it's pretty much not worth it anymore.
 
Pfft. Nine years? If you still have both kidneys, your sanity, all of your fingers and more than $.05 in the bank, you're giving up way too easy.
 
Pfft. Nine years? If you still have both kidneys, your sanity, all of your fingers and more than $.05 in the bank, you're giving up way too easy.

I'm actually in the hole by $100. Because I have to file company returns at $150 bucks each, by April 15th, and I only have $200 in the bank. And of course these returns are going to tell the state, I've made absoutely no money in the past year.
 
You mentioned union troubles...are you assembling a project with so much funding that you "have" to go union?

I'm thoroughly pro-union (in the entertainment business) but if it's killing you financially why not go non-union?
 
You mentioned union troubles...are you assembling a project with so much funding that you "have" to go union?

I'm thoroughly pro-union (in the entertainment business) but if it's killing you financially why not go non-union?

It was on the past two films I was planning on doing, so I kept writing cheaper and cheaper stuff, until I'm at where I am now. Film I'm trying to do now is non-union but it's still $20k+. Plus I can't get the location to call me back, or get any product placement agency to work with me. The producers won't return my calls or emails; nor will the Production Manager. I just hit road block after road block.
 
Unless I was getting something at a discounted rate or whatever I dont think I'd bother, then again if it was in the contract for whatever then thats different.

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