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I've been following a couple of threads on batteries for the GH2, in anticipation of the time when I finally buy one and have to organise extra power. There does seem to be some misunderstanding about battery voltage requirements, and the reasons they seem to vary, so I'll try and clear it up -- with the caveat that I haven't got a GH2 yet so there may be secondary effects of which I am unaware.
1. Check out my post here re battery voltage when charging discharging NiMhs: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea....2V-7600mAh)&p=2300034&viewfull=1#post2300034
2. The GH2 uses a Lithium-ion battery rated at 7.2 volts, 1200 mAh. Single lithium-ion cells have a rated voltage of ~3.6 volts, thus the GH2 uses two cells in series. The internal electronics of the GH2 will have been designed to operate off this battery i.e. from a voltage of 7.2 volts.
3. However, the battery voltage changes as it is charged and discharged. Lithium-ion cells are very particular about how they are charged. Unlike NiMhs cells which can be trickle charged, overcharged, completely discharged, all of which do not cause much damage, try any of the above with lithium-ions and they will be damaged. Charging of lithium-ion cells is done at a constant voltage of 4.2 volts/cell, and is terminated when the charging current drops below a certain level, something like 0.05C (where C is the capacity). Thus, for the GH2, the charger will be rated at 8.40 volts, and when the charge current drops below ~0.05 x 1200 = 60 mA, charging will be terminated.
4. Lithium ions also do not like being completely discharged. Typically, if they are discharged below 3.0 volts per cell you can expect them to suffer some damage. Thus, the GH2 probably has a low voltage cutoff circuit that will trigger when the voltage is less than about 6.0 volts. That figure is a guess, and when I get my GH2 I will confirm it. The electronics themselves may have a higher or lower cutoff point.
5. The internal circuitry of the GH2 will have a maximum voltage rating, beyond which it will be damaged. This maximum is not specified in the manual. Be very careful about applying anything more than 8.4 volts. See below for more info about why higher voltages appear to work without damaging the GH2.
6. The GH2 specs state that it draws 3.4 Watts (~400 mA) from a 8.4 volt supply under certain specified conditions. This current probably increases as the voltage drops when the battery discharges (I'm assuming constant power), so that for 7.2 volts (for example) at the GH2 battery terminal, the current would be ~470 mA.
To sum up
The GH2 internally has electronics that, according to the manual, will accept from 8.4 volts down to (a guess) 6.0 volts. So why does the GH2 sometimes not fire up from voltages within this range? Two reasons:
A. The above explanation assumed "hard" voltages -- voltages that remain constant. If you have a power supply that is not properly regulated (the technical term for constant voltage), it's output voltage will decrease when current is drawn. e.g. an 8.4 volt power supply may not be supplying 8.4 volts because of voltage drops within itself. Such a supply can be called "soft". A NiMh battery pack is "soft", the voltage at the GH2's power terminals varying from around 10 volts down to below 6 volts depending on the quality of the battery, its age, the ambient temperature, the state of charge, the current being drawn, the resistance of the connecting leads, and a host of other factors.
B. For any external power supply, there are voltage drops between the supply and the GH2 power terminals (where the Panasonic battery makes connection): you have two voltage drops in the leads from the battery (or AC supply) to the DCC8 adaptor, and two more voltage drops in the DCC8. When using the dedicated battery, these voltage drops are not present because the battery is making direct connection to the GH2 power terminals.
Conclusion
I am almost certain that if you apply a "hard" voltage of between 8.4 volts and 6.6 volts (well away from the assumed cutoff of 6.0 volts), that the GH2 will operate. But, if you have a NiMH battery pack of 7 cells that is a bit long in the tooth, or hasn't been recently charged, or was charged at too low a temperature, or was bought dirt-cheap from a dodgy supplier; or if you have an AC supply that is not of the best quality, then you may find you do need more than 9.0 volts – but that is because of the voltage drops along the way.
I don't know the maximum voltage that can be applied to the internal electronics. "Soft" supplies may very well need to be 9.6 volts or thereabouts to operate the GH2. But if someone takes that as a given and decides that, well, 10 volts is pretty close to 9.6, and unwittingly applies a "hard" 10 volts to the GH2, it could be bye-bye GH2.
The GH2 was designed to run off a lithium-ion battery that is rated at 7.2 volts, but actually varies from 8.4 volts down to about (a guess) 6.0 volts. If you have a supply that is supposedly 8.4 volts but will not operate the GH2, more than likely you have poor connections, poor-quality supply, or voltage drops in the leads.
ok guyburns,
the battery I will use is this one :
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...x_XP_L90S_XPL_90S_V_Type_14_4VDC_Lithium.html
and the adapter for the vmount plate is this one :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9099071019
It's in chinese but I had a chinese friend to help me and the customer service is really good. They can change the 7,2v output for another value I can choose.
The battery does not seem to be rechargeable. At such a high price using only 2/3 of its capacity is very wasteful in my opinion.
If you can try to get 9 to 9.6 volts oou of the battery. That will work with the GH2. If the voltage is under 8.4 the camera will try the proprietary communication handshake with it and it will fail.
Good luck.
That is definitely a rechargeable third party v-mount battery, v-mount is always expensive. What do you mean using only 2/3 of its capacity? Why would it only be using 2/3?
Getting 9v out of 14.4 is about 2/3.
But yeah that power converter might not be a good match, since it sounds like you'll want 9v power.
I was thinking about using this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/POWER-SUPPLY-12...411?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56411911a3
I have 12v li-ion batteries, and want to power a 12v monitor, 9v GH2, and a 5v wireless HDMI transmitter.
That might work for you.
I havent been able to get a DCC8 coupler yet though, anyone know of a good way to get one? I was about to order one from HandB but they seem to be out of stock now...
Thanks for the link to the Tekkeon battery. Looks pretty good too. It will be going on my list of battery possibilities.
A problem with your post: the link to "this shoemount adapter" goes straight back to dvx.
I'm not following your last post. I looked at the shoemount adaptor, and it looks like something that goes on the shoe that an external flash connects to. So are you thinking of mounting the battery on top of the camera?
Also, I don't understand how that shoemount adaptor is "a great way to ad a 1/4-20 mount". That square bit sticking out in the B&H photo, does that mount to the hot shoe, and then tightened with the round knob? On the other side of the mount, I assume there is a standard 1/4" tripod-type mounting bolt. Wouldn't that be in the way of a battery? Or is the battery threaded onto that bolt?