DIY IndieSlider...

v00d0o said:
I think I'm getting the small one (10-40)
so like how much would it cost and how long (i thought I heard a month :Drogar-Shock(DBG):
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Use the phone number in the first post and call igus... they can tell you. I don't think the 10-40 will be a problem.
 
39" - really?

39" - really?

Okay, so you pay $450 for a 39 inch move. Under 4 feet. Is that the extent of your creativity? Someone compared the Dana Dolly with the Zaza. That is comparing the Shelby Mustang with the Kia Sorento. Sure, both are cars. Both can get you where you are going. But if you had to pull up to a potential client in a car, would you use the Kia, or the Ford? If all you think about is a small, affordable ride, the Kia is the answer. But, if you have some balls you'll eventually go to the Shelby. Same with the Dana Dolly. Get it done right with something that looks like you belong. If you really want to go high tech, get a Camtram dolly. With the Dana Dolly, if you want to go three feet, fine. Six feet, fine. Ten feet, fine. Sometimes you can't fit ten feet of track into the space. No problem. With the ZaZa, you have a little more than three feet. Knife in a sword fight. Period. Like everything else in our industry, there is a low ball, medium, high ball, professional, and no budget professional option to solve the same problem. The Dana Dolly is the professional, and the ZaZa (and the limp noodle track dollies) are the medium and high ball, and the CamTram dolly is the no budget professional.
 
I think you're missing the point. You should be comparing a slider(or an over-under as I think they are also called) which costs $165 to build yourself with a slider that you can buy here: http://www.modernstudio.com/cameramounts.html that costs $4,535.00 and goes up to $7,335.00.

I think if you wanted an accurate comparison, you could compare a cinema standard dolly with a Dana Dolly.
 
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I'm not sure that cine city is the same, the feet on the slider are different. and so is a lot of other details. Like, I don't have adjustments on the side to tighten the bearings.

Must be another companies similar product (remember, these sliders are for other purposes really so I am sure there must be multiple companies that make them).
 
Mike Hall said:
Okay, so you pay $450 for a 39 inch move. Under 4 feet. Is that the extent of your creativity? Someone compared the Dana Dolly with the Zaza. That is comparing the Shelby Mustang with the Kia Sorento. Sure, both are cars. Both can get you where you are going. But if you had to pull up to a potential client in a car, would you use the Kia, or the Ford? If all you think about is a small, affordable ride, the Kia is the answer. But, if you have some balls you'll eventually go to the Shelby. Same with the Dana Dolly. Get it done right with something that looks like you belong. If you really want to go high tech, get a Camtram dolly. With the Dana Dolly, if you want to go three feet, fine. Six feet, fine. Ten feet, fine. Sometimes you can't fit ten feet of track into the space. No problem. With the ZaZa, you have a little more than three feet. Knife in a sword fight. Period. Like everything else in our industry, there is a low ball, medium, high ball, professional, and no budget professional option to solve the same problem. The Dana Dolly is the professional, and the ZaZa (and the limp noodle track dollies) are the medium and high ball, and the CamTram dolly is the no budget professional.
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Clearly, you've not used this slider. I looked at the Dana Dolly, but it suffered the same problem as many other dollies for some people, look at the size of that slider! Look at all the pieces you have to use. I use ONE tripod, and ONE slider assembly that stay attached. I can easily carry this. I don't need a case for the pipes, a case for the head (which is huge on that thing!), they are one in the same. I don't need anyone else with me to carry all the parts into the woods or whatever. You cannot use the Dana Dolly with one tripod from what I see.

Also, you can order the track in any size you want. I plan on testing matting two of them with slightly beveled edges so the slider could slide across smoothly provided I can mount the two sturdy enough (which I imagine won't be too hard). I have access to a mechanical engineer to solve this problem.

I'm not saying the dana dolly isn't cool, or works great, it's just some of us wanted a smaller solution. I have this slider, and our tests with it have been GREAT. Actually, someone who was also skeptical of it initially was blown away with the performance and size and has already asked to borrow it for multiple paying contracts.

When people ask me about a slider now I tell them one simple thing; decide what you need. Decide how complicated a shot you are doing. You can't fit a camera guy and a focus puller on the Dana Dolly, so if you need those things, you are gonna have to go with a full sized dolly and track.

Not to mention, Ford Shelby? Come on, that Dana Dolly is skateboard wheels and wood. Maybe if that Shelby was a Hot Wheels Car :P

But in seriousness, this slider is every bit as professional.
 
grime you made your own zaza slider? do you remember how much it cost, with shipping? and i assume when you order the carriage it comes with the 4 sliders already on?
 
I did, but I don't remember exactly how much I paid. I had to wait a month for it to get shipped. I believe it was around the cost $165 with shipping that got mentioned. Mostly it depends where you are located I think (in terms of inside the US or outside the US).

And yes, when I ordered the track and the slider they came all put together. If not using end caps it was as easy as drilling one hole, tapping two holes and then putting the bolt through the carriage and mounting the slider to my tripod.

We're using it this weekend on some tutorials we are doing so I will be sure to post those here when I am done (the tutorials are not on the slider per say, but some prop making for movies)
 
Just put together my slider, and it is sooooo coool.
I got a 1250 mm rail, and the 100 mm long shuttle.

Just wondering if anyone has used a hihat on top of the 100mm long shuttle. If so which one?

Thanks
Mark
 
follow up.

follow up.

By the way here is a pic of my setup. I'm using the kessler crane hercules head underneath the slider. It's rock solid. On top, I have a really crappy old bogen head.

I have a vinten vision 3 head that I want to use on top, but I can't remove the bolt coming out of the 75 mm bowl on the bottom of the head. I don't believe it's removable, so I can't bolt it directly to the shuttle on the slider. I was thinking that if I could mount a 75 mm high hat on top of the shuttle, it would solve all my problems, and I could use my vinten head.
 

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markh said:
Just put together my slider, and it is sooooo coool.
I got a 1250 mm rail, and the 100 mm long shuttle.

Just wondering if anyone has used a hihat on top of the 100mm long shuttle. If so which one?

Thanks
Mark
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markh said:
By the way here is a pic of my setup. I'm using the kessler crane hercules head underneath the slider. It's rock solid. On top, I have a really crappy old bogen head.

I have a vinten vision 3 head that I want to use on top, but I can't remove the bolt coming out of the 75 mm bowl on the bottom of the head. I don't believe it's removable, so I can't bolt it directly to the shuttle on the slider. I was thinking that if I could mount a 75 mm high hat on top of the shuttle, it would solve all my problems, and I could use my vinten head.
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See the complete first post... down towards the bottom...both problems are solved!:happy:
 
Thanks, I appreciate it. I guess I completely missed that. Unfortunately, the Vinten Vision 3 head doesn't have a standard 3/8" bolt coming out of the bottom. It's larger. I have an email into Vinten to see if it's changeable. If I can change that out, then the bogen adaptor will be the ideal fix for me.
 
I am going to be putting bogen quick release plates


(this > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...L_Sliding_Quick_Release.html/mode/edu#reviews )

onto my slider. Is this also 3/8-16 for tapping purposes? I'm going to thread 3 holes on my 1500mm slider and install plates so that I can use as a single or dual tripod mount with my 503 heads. I am going to tap the center hole and the second one in from each end for the plates. Finally im going to top everything off with a 701 video head and maybe even a 4" filmtools riser.

Also going to do the delrin screw brake at some point and add a set of feet when I get the money for them.

I just did the endstop solution tonight, works great!
 
Aw darn, I went to 2 home depots today and none of the stuff was in stock but the drill bit. Finally went to a lowes which was 20 miles away to pick up everything. I gave the guy my list of stuff I needed including the spacers. Went home and drilled the carriage. Took the screw and found out that the tap was wrong. It was a combo pack that included a drill bit and tap. So can I just buy another tap and redo it or what. Darnit!
 
I am going to be putting bogen quick release plates


(this > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...de/edu#reviews )

onto my slider. Is this also 3/8-16 for tapping purposes? I'm going to thread 3 holes on my 1500mm slider and install plates so that I can use as a single or dual tripod mount with my 503 heads. I am going to tap the center hole and the second one in from each end for the plates. Finally im going to top everything off with a 701 video head and maybe even a 4" filmtools riser.

Also going to do the delrin screw brake at some point and add a set of feet when I get the money for them.

I just did the endstop solution tonight, works great!
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Sil3ntp8nd8 said:
5/16 drill bit and tap
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So it came with the 5/16 tap as well? Strange!

When I bought the pack of both the drill bit and tap it came with the 5/16 drill bit and the 3/8 tap (NC 16 is the thread size). Are you sure it's not right? I had to go back through the hole a few times on mine to make sure it was right and smooth.

If you used the 5/16 bit and a 5/16 tap, I think it wouldn't have made any threading, or very little. In any case, if you are SURE you have the smaller tap, then just get the 3/8 tap (which is equivalent to 6/16) and you will be fine to thread it again (since you are making a larger hole) I would imagine.
 
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