DIY IndieSlider...

If your in CA they should be rerunning it right bout now or in the next 20 min. I missed it here in the mdwest at 8 but caught it again at midnight.
 
ChipG said:
Ha! yea, I think we all owe Zaza a big thanks for this one!
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Thanks Chip...but I'm just glad to see people enjoying and experimenting with the igus stuff. Thanks to you ALL for posting your great ideas! What is they say, "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now & again".

I have to see that show. That rig was (for lack of a better word) awesome. Granted it must take the better part of a day to setup but I'm sure it produces some great footage.
 
ChipG said:
So I was looking at thier very expensive $100k+ rigs and about had a heart attack when I saw what looked like the Igus rails cut down the center and widened by 6 inches (second pic). They use little wheels instead of the sliding plate but I think only because they have a lot of weight on top of it.
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Chip... I was just tooling around the igus site and noticed you can get single rail (WS-16) in any gauge. I'm sure this is what they used. So you can get single (split) rail and guides that will allow you to make your own custome carriage. Wheels are spinning....:beer:
 
Just put my order in. Dawn had the part numbers memorized. "Oh the film slider, not a problem. Do want the WW-16-60-10 Drylin 'W' carriage with the rails?".

They don't quote shipping prices though. That kind of sucks, her words and I agree. I might have expressed it if I would have know the $$$.
 
ddp said:
Just put my order in. Dawn had the part numbers memorized. "Oh the film slider, not a problem. Do want the WW-16-60-10 Drylin 'W' carriage with the rails?".

They don't quote shipping prices though. That kind of sucks, her words and I agree. I might have expressed it if I would have know the $$$.
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LMAO! That's great. :thumbup: Let us know how you make out & be sure to post a few pictures of your rig.
 
zaza woes

zaza woes

Just got my gear today, had the local igus supplier put it together. So far, not super happy with it. here's why

1) the rail sticks. have tried unlocking the rail bolts, which has helped, but it's hard to find the sweet spot
2) the thread screw to my tripod is totally not stable.. so the rail wobbles on its central point above the tripod, and then pivots sharply to the left or the right depending on where the camera is on the rail
3) My shooting technique doesn't seem to be getting the most out of the slider


My rail is 750mm long fyi

Questions about technique:

It seems the best shots are those with something in foreground and background. When I shoot things that are far away using a 100mm lens on my 5d2, the rail doesn't do much. The shot seems 99% static, even though i'm moving the length of the rail

Do people generally use wide angle with the mini tracks, or long lenses? When I used my 28, it seemed marginally better.

The only time I started to see some of the 'cool' factor in my shots was when I shot through something nearby -- ie fencing -- while focused on action in the background.
 
jongo said:
Just got my gear today, had the local igus supplier put it together. So far, not super happy with it. here's why
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You had someone build this for you? Did they follow the simple directions?

1) the rail sticks. have tried unlocking the rail bolts, which has helped, but it's hard to find the sweet spot
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At the bottom of the first post there are instructions on adjusting the carriage to slide properly. Should be smooth as silk, the 3 that I've built work perfectly.
2) the thread screw to my tripod is totally not stable.. so the rail wobbles on its central point above the tripod, and then pivots sharply to the left or the right depending on where the camera is on the rail
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I don't know what you mean here...what tripod are you using? Can you post a picture? The rail screws down tight on the 3/8" bolt solid as a rock...or it should. Was it tapped properly? There shouldn't be any play at all.
3) My shooting technique doesn't seem to be getting the most out of the slider
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Get the rig together properly first, then I think you'll find what works for you. I don't know what you shoot, but the 1000mm gives you a good 36" of slide which is very obvious. Try shooting a few inches off the ground....or over the shoulder, dolly in, etc. The wider the shot, the less movement you'll see.

Please let me know how you make out...I'm more than glad to help out any way I can. This one isn't set-up correctly. We'll get you up to speed in no time. Everyone here is enjoying the rig and producing some very creative shots using it. :beer:
 
Jongo:
i also have some of your problem:
My 90cm rail sticks at the 1/3 position. So not in the center, and not in the very end. Other position works very well, so i dont think the bolts are in bad direction. If i unlock the bolts it helps a little, but the carriage move too easy, and it is good to have some resistance, for slow movement.
I don't see with my eyes any rail bending, but this is normal, because i think the difference is below 1mm. (i have the 10mm version)

So far, i take some good footage at wedding, satisfied with the result, but only use 30-40cm of the full path.
You can see here http://www.relaxvideo.hu/esk-videok.html
Bottom videos (the middle) start with some sliding.

Good thing, that local Igus support will replace my rail if they also feel the resistance. But i have to go 60km.

Shooting technic: yes, it work better when something is in foreground, and also in background. Even better when the foreground is out of focus!
So step back and zoom in, for smaller DOF. Also Dolly IN looks very cool even when not parallel, just 30-45 degrees to the path.


regards!
 
does this have to be set on something risen off the ground or will it work ground level? very nice looking though, i've been interested in getting an indieslider, but the price was outrageous for the size i needed.
 
DaksFamus said:
does this have to be set on something risen off the ground or will it work ground level? very nice looking though, i've been interested in getting an indieslider, but the price was outrageous for the size i needed.
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You have to make the blocks on the ends, then you can just set it on the ground. (it's about 4" high if you use wood blocks - see first post)
 
skinny! said:
a few photos ...basically i made it work, and here's the result. iPhone photos, sorry.

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notice the low profile nut securing the rail...

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rubber bumpers i found at Home Depot for $1.81 each, secured with 8/32 screw and wingnut.

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one last view. i think it looks pretty clean, and it is very strong...i will probably buy a couple of weights for the legs.

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Hi Skinny,
I want to copy your set up. How did you remove your head from your Velbon 607? Did you just twist real hard? Thanks.
 
yes...they just gluethe threads...it gets more complicated than that though...for what you discover when you get it off...you'll say to yourself "how do attach everything NOW?"...let me know when you get there, and give me time to take mine apart so i can provide you photos....OR

just get a better tripod! that's what i would do if i had money haha

Chris
 
ZazaCast said:
Chip... I was just tooling around the igus site and noticed you can get single rail (WS-16) in any gauge. I'm sure this is what they used. So you can get single (split) rail and guides that will allow you to make your own custome carriage. Wheels are spinning....:beer:
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I'm pushing away from the Igus DryLin Bearings all together. Anyone know a source for mini roller blade wheels? I know that needs to be done to eliminate the binding issues. Coupled with a friction brake it should solve most of our problems in that area.
 
Thanks Skinny, I can't even get the head off now, so I'm not going to attempt it. I don't have money, but maybe I will buy a better tripod anyway! Until then, I will leave the slider on top of the head, which works pretty good, although your setup is ideal.
 
WS-16-60 Drylin 'W' rail 1000mm
WW-16-60-10 Drylin 'W' carriage

I just ordered mine.... Thanks for all the info Zaza... I am really looking forward to this.
 
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