Digital Bolex audio test

Razz16mm

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One of the most desired features requested during the D16's development process was the ability to record very high quality audio on camera. Decent studio grade analog preamps and high quality AD. The camera records 24 bit PCM audio currently in AIFF format at 48 kHz and 96 Khz sample rates. The next firmware update is supposed to add broadcast WAV with timecode. Not needing external mixers or recorders is great for those of us that shoot solo docs most of the time and like to travel light. I have field test equipment I use for commissioning and tuning sound systems, so I did some formal tests of the D16. For comparison I also tested my Canon GL2 which has decent consumer grade unbalanced 3.5mm stereo audio input and for a reference point my Motu Ultralite digital preamp/mixer, which has very good class A mic preamps. My Canon is not too shabby, better quality than many consumer cameras, worse than some. Probably a good general comparison point. At some point I hope to test a couple of the more popular aftermarket sub $1k field recorders , like the Zoom's and Tascams, for comparison too.

The test is analog in to analog out via the headphone outputs, so it is a test of the full signal chain through analog preamps to AD to DA analog out. Headphone gain is set to maximum in both cases. Total harmonic distortion +noise and signal to noise ratio are measured with a 400kHz sine wave test at OdBu output level from the headphone jack. Mic input signal is set at -36dBu in for 0 dBu out. This represents the average mic gain needed to bring most modern condenser mics up to line level output. The best mic in to line out S/N ratio I have measured from professional grade analog or digital live venue consoles is within 1 or 2 dBu of the Motu. When you subtract the mic preamp gain, you get an equivalent input noise ( EIN) of -113 dBu, within about 6 dB or so of the theoretical maximum possible. Internally the EIN of the Motu is around -120dB FS.

The -65dB mic signal to noise ratio on the cameras is probably pretty close to the best one could realistically expect from audio circuits crammed into compact camera bodies in a relatively hot and noisy EM environment. Based on my own measurements of NC curve background noise in all kinds of environments this would typically be at least 20 dB below room tone unless you are on a sound stage. A slight high end roll off in the mix would remove any very high frequency residual hiss without seriously compromising sound track quality.

For critical recordings like acoustic music performances, a high quality field mixer to line input on the D16 will give results at least as good as or better than most sub $1k recorders.

The results are self explanatory.

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Thanks for this test Razz. An EIN of -120 is pretty good for in camera sound. I always thought Joe and company should make a retro looking external audio recorder and add it to their line of products...
 
What?

It's on;ly $2,995 for a 12-stop global shutter camera that shoots RAW.

And looking as cool as it does, that's a bargain!

With a non-removable battery and non-removable SSD (256gb)... And a Super16-sized sensor. Want 1TB of space? Extra $1000. PL Mount? Another $1000. There you're already up to $5k for 1TB and a PL mount. With BlackMagic you can at least get the same 12 stops of DR with a Super35 sensor, shooting RAW 4K, with a PL mount for $2999. I'm not even a fan of BlackMagic but I'd take one of those over a Digital Bolex.

Honestly I think the look of the Bolex is a total gimmick... from the crank gimmick to the handle and the poorly placed screen + cable jacks (on the operator side)... No thanks. Not that the BlackMagic design is much better, though.
 
With a non-removable battery and non-removable SSD (256gb)... And a Super16-sized sensor. Want 1TB of space? Extra $1000. PL Mount? Another $1000. There you're already up to $5k for 1TB and a PL mount. With BlackMagic you can at least get the same 12 stops of DR with a Super35 sensor, shooting RAW 4K, with a PL mount for $2999. I'm not even a fan of BlackMagic but I'd take one of those over a Digital Bolex.

Honestly I think the look of the Bolex is a total gimmick... from the crank gimmick to the handle and the poorly placed screen + cable jacks (on the operator side)... No thanks. Not that the BlackMagic design is much better, though.
You seem to be making a qualitative statement about super 16 vs. 35mm sensors. Some shooters (including me) do a lot of verite filming and a Super 35mm sensor (shallow DOF, etc.) is not always desirable... I do believe it would benefit DB to bring down their prices a bit to put themselves more inline with the other offerings out there, although DB is no where near as large as companies like Blackmagic that can rely on volume sales and income from software and a bunch of other sources.
 
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With a non-removable battery and non-removable SSD (256gb)... And a Super16-sized sensor. Want 1TB of space? Extra $1000. PL Mount? Another $1000. There you're already up to $5k for 1TB and a PL mount. With BlackMagic you can at least get the same 12 stops of DR with a Super35 sensor, shooting RAW 4K, with a PL mount for $2999. I'm not even a fan of BlackMagic but I'd take one of those over a Digital Bolex.

Honestly I think the look of the Bolex is a total gimmick... from the crank gimmick to the handle and the poorly placed screen + cable jacks (on the operator side)... No thanks. Not that the BlackMagic design is much better, though.

That's just options.
Every BMD camera gets more expensive with the options too - URSA MINI is a perfect example of that.

As for the handle - I don't think it's a gimmick - I think it's simply a mistake, and a bad one. Monitor placement is also tragic.
But after a more serious review of its Image - I REALLY like it.
NO...it's not a versatile image. NO... it's not for everyone.
But MAN! If I had a moderate budget for a serious narrative production - I could easily see it being a top-contender choice.
 
That's just options.
Every BMD camera gets more expensive with the options too - URSA MINI is a perfect example of that.

As for the handle - I don't think it's a gimmick - I think it's simply a mistake, and a bad one. Monitor placement is also tragic.
But after a more serious review of its Image - I REALLY like it.
NO...it's not a versatile image. NO... it's not for everyone.
But MAN! If I had a moderate budget for a serious narrative production - I could easily see it being a top-contender choice.
The handle is very practical. With a small zoom like the Angie 17-68, or a decent C-mount prime, (the 10mm Switar is a favorite) the D16 balances nicely on one hand and the other is free to run the lens. In this mode the LCD placement works well since you can brace the elbows against the body and look down at it for shooting. Very stable hand held work is possible with a little practice. To match the D16 out of the box in its most common version with 512GB SSD, you would have to add equal capacity in aftermarket SSD's plus four hours of battery capacity to a BMC.
During the design phase, we discussed the viewfinder issues. The consensus was to go with the designed low end LCD, which is primarily there for menus, video monitoring is an extra convenience. The viewpoint was that wherever and whatever you built into the camera, it would be in the wrong place for most of us at least half the time and a true high quality LCD/EVF would add as much to the price of the camera as buying an aftermarket unit. The money was spent upgrading the HDMI board for better support of aftermarket solutions rather than to reinvent the wheel. How many BMC shooters use the on board LCD exclusively? Or Canon or Panasonic shooters for that matter.
You won't see the price coming down, it is an expensive camera to make. The scientific grade Kodak sensor in the D16 costs more by itself than the entire manufacturing cost of a BMPCC in the box ready to ship.
DPStewart hit the nail on the head. This is not a versatile general purpose video production camera. It is a pure digital cinema camera. A blank canvas for visual artists. One that requires a significant level of skill and commitment to master.
 
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