Definitive editing solution for 25P PAL?

J

j8jweb

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Hi all,

I've read a lot of confusing info so far about editing 25P. Obviously the primary point of shooting in progressive (P) mode is to emulate the film look, i.e. with entire captured frames rather than using interlacing.

So, my question is, when editing 25P, what options/preferences are available, and in which software packages, which will completely preserve the 25P progressive 'look'?

In short, what is the very best way to go about editing 25P? Thanks very much in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this.

J
 
As a pal user myself i join in on your quest for the best 25p pal nle, camera, etc settings....
PAL USERS UNITE!

Share your knowledge!

(mine is limited)
 
Our Workflow worked - sort of!!!

Our Workflow worked - sort of!!!

Hey maybe this will help in your quest..

We shot our no budget digital feature 'Memories of Tomorrow' on DVX100a in 25p setting. For editing, since we did not want to be tied down to a place or did not have money to pay a post production house. We came up with our own workflow: We had Avid Express Pro 4 on my Dell Precision M60 laptop. We created a 25p project and then just used a normal camera to capture the entire footage {about 28 tapes} in 15:1 resolution onto a 200 GB external hard drive [this was in Nov'2004]. After we finished the cut and locked the movie down, we went back and recaptured the finished sequence at a the normal DV resolution to do our online. All our video online was done within Avid itself while for Audio we used Nuendo so as to have a better control of sound quality. You can just export out and omf file and Nuendo reads it fine. Once the audio was done mastering, we imported the mixed down .wav file into Avid and replaced the audio in the sequence with the imported wav file.

Disadvantages with this work process:
1) Time code drift when you are doing an uprez: We found that avid has a bug where it creates a time code drift with the footage if there are time code breaks on the tape which are less than 4 frames or something...The only way to get around this is to get a bigger hard drive {especially with the cheaper drive space} and capture your tapes normal DV resolution in the first place. 1GB will hold about 4 minutes of DV footage and allow for atleast 50-100 GB for renders and effects depending on the type of project.
2) When you are doing audio online in a different software you really need to be sure that your cut is locked down because it is hard to do an edit in Avid and then conform it back to the audio software without loosing all your previous work...i mean with enough planning it can be done but it is still a pain in the a@#$; so start doing the online of the project when your cut has been locked down.

As far as the look is concerned - you can have a look at the end product by clicking on 'MEDIA' on http://themovie.unkreative.com

And the camera settings we used were as follows:

Shot on filter 6 cine mode

Detail level -2
V Detail level -1
Detail coring 0
Chroma level +3
Chroma phase 0
Color Temp 0
Master Ped +6

Gammer - Cine - Like
Matrix - Cine - Like


So yeah hope this helps......
cheers
amit
 
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