Debate between student and lecturer

GaryinCalifornia said:
Those who can teach, do. Those who can't, work and make a living in film... : )
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No reason you can't do both. Look up Levie Isaacks ASC, he teaches at the Wounded Marine Careers Foundation school and also at a university in South Carolina, as well as shooting series such as "Malcolm in the Middle."

Look up David Mullen ASC, he spends an inordinate amount of time on the web sharing his techniques and teaching, while also shooting a full slate of films.

Look up Orson Scott Card, extraordinarily successful novelist who also teaches classes at tiny little Southern Virginia University up in Buena Vista, VA.

There are plenty of people out there with very active careers, who also profess their profession.

There are, of course, scads of idiots too who couldn't get a job in the real world. Buyer beware.
 
Barry_Green said:
No reason you can't do both.

There are, of course, scads of idiots too who couldn't get a job in the real world. Buyer beware.
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Yes that's the hard part buyer beware...

I got into filmmaking because in high school what we called the old man back then came and taught because his professor hated him because he knew more than him...

So what was UCI's loss was our gain...

Of course imdb.com always mixes his dad's credits up with his...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0066247/

Yes he did do the Disney classic... (let you do your homework there)

I agree with you I've found that the best teachers are pros who get to a certain age and they decide they want to pass on their knowledge to the rest of the world...

The worst are the guys who couldn't cut it... no pun intended or maybe so...
 
Mattykins said:
Umm...CineAlta? The panasonic's can get terrible images, as can the RED, as can the panavision's. But to say everything SONY sucks is quite simply stupid.

And I agree film schools should still teach film. The digital realm is very different from film. While you can teach good story telling on video - you also teach students how to plan and be selective on shots, as well as working with film when you teach film.
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I actually prefer in most situations the EX1 to the HVX (I know another debate for another thread).

re: Teaching on Film

It does come down to costs. With tuition and film costs going for broke - you have to consider the burden of shooting on film. The grad school I went to had quadrupled in tuition since I was there. Film costs have more than doubled. Grants have dried up. One thing the digital realm has done is open up filmmaking to folks/students who otherwise couldn't afford it. If approached right, I think a digital curriculum has the main advantage of being experiment more and work on your technique. Schools should allow you to fail. Shooting on film makes it traumatic to do so (unless you got a trust fund). Do you think Phillip Bloom would make a what seems like a film a week if he just had a film camera? The problem with film is practice gets prohibitively expensive, everything is done with extreme caution and often overboarded and overplanned (yes that can happen). It's like being in a band and paying through the nose for expensive rehearsal space. Digital is the cheap garage where you can really hone your chops.
 
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