Dawson's Creek shot on video in later seasons?

[Guest]

Some TV's now will try to "detect" what is being played and adapt themselves, usually with setting I personally find "wrong"

I travel a lot and in a new place the first thing I try to do is reset the TV to factory default and then turn everything off. I mean all of it. Anything that's processing, noise, motion enhancing reducing. Turn everything off. Is there a chance that TV is in auto mode ? or that it's had a setup change ? Some sets make it very quick to cycle between a default, "dynamic" or custom look

JB

If roxics has left motion smoothing on one of the screens in hi home, that would forever change my view of them.

 

[roxics]

If toxics has left motion smoothing on one of the screens in hi home, that would forever change my view of them.

lol nope. This is a 2012 Vizio that I've long since shut off any motion smoothing on. Since day one. Everything else looks fine on it. Including other episodes of Dawson's Creek. This was a one-off fluke that must have just been psychological. It was late and I was tired now that I think about it.

 

[Guest]

lol nope. This is a 2012 Vizio that I've long since shut off any motion smoothing on. Since day one. Everything else looks fine on it. Including other episodes of Dawson's Creek. This was a one-off fluke that must have just been psychological. It was late and I was tired now that I think about it.

Very glad to hear that!

Also, it is late for me here too, i’ll take your cue and head off to get some rest.

 

[DLD]

lol nope. This is a 2012 Vizio that I've long since shut off any motion smoothing on. Since day one. Everything else looks fine on it. Including other episodes of Dawson's Creek...

I once found a copy of Terminator II online (and in Russian) that also looked like video. So I embarked on a search and found a couple more that looked the same until I found one that didn't.

 

[Greg_E]

If you are "finding" them online, they are probably cams from the screen in a theater... Some of the old cams were really very good and captured/processed in a technologically advanced way. Especially if it was "released" in a VCD or SVCD format. At the time of standard definition, SVCD actually looked pretty decent. High speed internet killed those formats off, as well as cheap DVD players and media killed them.

 

[DLD]

The "camera in the hand" copies were a staple in the Russian 1990's, when the organized crime dominated the landscape. Since then, control shifted to the official "organs of law and order". Including the movie industry. The online copies for last decade have been steadily getting better, DVD rips in 240, then in 360, 480 and now in 720 and 1080. One can find about a dozen "online theaters" on the first page of the results. And I don't even go to Yandex, as I do for the old photos.

The film I have seen the most times in Russian is "Saturday Night Fever". The Russian translation misses a large share of nuances in the dialog. Of course, in the translation of the "Airplane", they miss about fifty percent of the ZAZ punchlines.

 

[Run&Gun]

lol nope. This is a 2012 Vizio that I've long since shut off any motion smoothing on. Since day one. Everything else looks fine on it. Including other episodes of Dawson's Creek. This was a one-off fluke that must have just been psychological. It was late and I was tired now that I think about it.

Could have just been something weird with the stream. I see weird stuff on DirecTV all the time on certain channels, where the motion gets all weird and jumpy(which would be the opposite of what you were seeing).

 

[Mitch Gross]

Slight thread de-rail....

If I recall Panavision bought a 50% share of Aaton when they got sued by Arri for infringing the swinger viewfinder patent.

Panavision wanted to develop a new super 16mm camera to replace the Elaine and the XTR Prod was that camera. Originally it was going to be a Panavision only rental camera and a lot of the early marketing images of that camera had Panavision style side rods, not rails from below.

Aaton also introduced an 800' magazine for extra long shooting times.

It was head and shoulders a better camera than the Arri SR3 at the time. Quite and steadier, a magnetic magazine drive instead of cogs and gears (quieter) and the magazines would "remember" how much film was in them when you switched them, a viewfinder frame glow that could work at the same time as the light meter (The Arri glow kills the internal meter), field switchable ground glasses using a tool built into the handle and and the other tools allowed you to change the shutter in a few seconds. Built in phase adjustment (for shooting monitors) and the video split was integrated with internal wiring, and even output VITC so in theory you could edit from the video split and conform back to film negative. Electrostatic viewfinder instead of the traditional heated viewfinder...the innovations went on and on, all co-developed with Panavision.

Of course Panavision also wanted Aatoncode timecode on film as well and started supplying Aatoncode as an option on Panavision 35mm cameras for episodic TV (Star Trek from memory was an enthusiastic user).

Yes before the XTR Prod and X TERA Aaton were known as a doco camera, but Panavision sure weren't planning for the XPROD to be a doco camera.

In the end JPB (Aaton founder) bought out the Panavision share of Aaton and they became their own entity again before the Pana-Aaton was launched and Aaton started selling them as stand alone cameras. It took Arri a LONG time to catch up, arguably the 416 was the closest they came where they notably copied some of the Aaton traits.

Mitch may remember and confirm some of this, he was working with Able, the US agent and I worked at the Australian agent Lemac at the same time....

JB

From my recollection it wasn't exactly a 50% stake purchase as much as it was a contract investment by Panavision for Aaton to develop the new camera for them. But Panavision had pretty specific ideas of what the camera was it wanted and Aaton (in the form of JPB) had its own ideas. Basically Panavision wanted a studio-style beast with an Aaton movement and Aaton wanted to stick to its sleek & portable design while adding the functionality Panavision wanted as essentially tack-ons to the camera. So after a few years of butting heads they parted ways and Aaton came out with the XTRprod.

Throughout its history, Aaton only really created a handful of camera designs. Then they were continually refined. There were really only three 35mm designs and two 16mm designs (and one digital design). The rest were improvements based on those designs.