CS4 4.0 works great for me with AVCHD files alone, whats with 4.1???

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iFilm7

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ummm... i have CS4 4.0 (i looked in premiere's "about")
why do i need to update to 4.1?
also, AVCHD playback is fine on what im using right now (4.0)
plus, i never keep the original folder intact, i just drag and drop the .MTS files to a folder in my computer and it works fine! why do i need the WHOLE folder structure?
thanks! (:
 
The 4.1 update provides some new features as well as many bug fixes and increased stability. I would recommend you update.
 
thanks.

do you know why people keep the original AVCHD folderstructure intact with the mts files?
 
There are a few apps that require the meta data from the other folders in order to process the file. I think it's silly, I can't imagine how hard it would be to work on a large project where all the clips share the same file names. But if you want to transcode and whatever, then keeping the original folder structure is a good idea, cuz that footage is probably going to an archive somewhere, and it's still very 'original'.

Myself, I rename all the files based on YY-DD-MM_HH-NN-SS_00001_Project.MTS and it's worked out pretty good. Easy to find footage with Windows search.
 
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Wait, why do i need the structure? I don't really understand...
 
A big project is much more manageable this way and
I also keep it intact because I convert the mts files to dvcprohd prior to editing .
 
i convert them to DNxHD but i dont need to folder structure? idk, its useless to me even for big projects, i dont see any use in it....
 
iFilm7 said:
Wait, why do i need the structure? I don't really understand...
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There are meta data there such as timecode, when/where/if clips are spanned. Without the folder structure some applications wont even import the clips. When Premiere Pro will read the timecode and stitch spanned clikps together properly the folder structure is a must. If not, no timecode, no automatically stitched clips.

I have seen editiors in panic a lot of times because they have been messing with the folder structure and *boom*, the applications refuse to read the files.

As a thumb of rule with all memorycard cameras, Sony EX-1, Panasonic P2, Panasonic AVCHD, etc, etc, etc, dont ever mess with the files or the folders. If it still is needed, make a copy of the folders/files and modify it in another folder and make sure to keep it separated from the folder structure of the card/s.

/Roger
 
Averdahl said:
There are meta data there such as timecode, when/where/if clips are spanned. Without the folder structure some applications wont even import the clips. When Premiere Pro will read the timecode and stitch spanned clikps together properly the folder structure is a must. If not, no timecode, no automatically stitched clips.

I have seen editiors in panic a lot of times because they have been messing with the folder structure and *boom*, the applications refuse to read the files.

As a thumb of rule with all memorycard cameras, Sony EX-1, Panasonic P2, Panasonic AVCHD, etc, etc, etc, dont ever mess with the files or the folders. If it still is needed, make a copy of the folders/files and modify it in another folder and make sure to keep it separated from the folder structure of the card/s.

/Roger
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ooooh, i hear on SDHC cards if you record for a long time, itll make like two files right?
i record on HDD so im good right? i dont need the folder structure?
 
iFilm7 said:
ooooh, i hear on SDHC cards if you record for a long time, itll make like two files right?
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Yes, or three files, four file, five files, etc, etc. (approx 23 minutes/clip)

iFilm7 said:
i record on HDD so im good right?
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Good for what? What HDD, computer or what?

iFilm7 said:
i dont need the folder structure?
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You mention this in many threads and i wonder why all this worry? Why just not keep the folder structure and forget about it, it does not take up much HDD space. The day you discover that the editing app you use in lets say five years demand the folder structure you will regret that you did not keep it. Its your choice and you are the only one that can make that choice.

So, why do you not want to keep it?
 
Averdahl said:
Yes, or three files, four file, five files, etc, etc. (approx 23 minutes/clip)


Good for what? What HDD, computer or what?


You mention this in many threads and i wonder why all this worry? Why just not keep the folder structure and forget about it, it does not take up much HDD space. The day you discover that the editing app you use in lets say five years demand the folder structure you will regret that you did not keep it. Its your choice and you are the only one that can make that choice.

So, why do you not want to keep it?
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The camera records onto HDD (Hard Drive Disk)

I don't wanna keep it because i cant organize it in a way that will help make the workflow smoother.
 
iFilm7 said:
The camera records onto HDD (Hard Drive Disk)
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Yes, i know but what kind, from Focus Enhancements or similar or via HDMI > Blackmagic Design card > Computers HDD.

iFilm7 said:
I don't wanna keep it because i cant organize it in a way that will help make the workflow smoother.
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A good way to organize and keep the folder structure at the same time is to keep everything in folders such as;
D:\Project Name\Media\Card_01\PRIVATE etc, etc
D:\Project Name\Media\Card_02\PRIVATE etc, etc
D:\Project Name\Media\Card_03\PRIVATE etc, etc
D:\Project Name\Media\Card_04\PRIVATE etc, etc

IE, to have a separate folder for each card. If you plan on archiving your footage you really dont want to find yourself five years from now with another NLE that refuses to import the footage because the folder structure is missing. It happens today in some NLE's and it will happen in five years as well. :)

/Roger
 
Im not sure, the camcorder has a built in HDD and it records onto that. Theres an HDMI port but i dont use it.
 
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