Cropping 16:9??

Kyle Stebbins

Kyle Stebbins

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How would one "crop" their video down to 16:9 in premiere pro... i understand that the required entry format is 16:9 -- how would one attain that after shooting 4:3 with the dvx and then editing in premiere.

i have ideas, but nothing that would seem all that practical.
:beer:cheers! -kyle
 
cropping doesnt sound so good...you'll throw out a LOT of information! I did the same thing, shot in 4:3 and edited that way...but haven't found a better idea than to scale down the height
 
the stupid thing with this is that I couldnt shoot in a different mode, love is the most deceptive feeling was already shot just before I found out about horrorfest, and the door between had 1/3 of it shot again before I found out about horrorfest (but all of them were inside the designated period of time to get approved for entry) so I couldnt have 1/3 of it shot in 4:3 and the rest shot differently...so I got stuck with the 4:3 for the whole movie

anyway I scaled down the height for Love is the most deceptive feeling, and exported it in quicktime to see how it looks and I can tell you that it could be worse :) I think its not that bad....especially if there's no other way around this.
 
it is better. i leaned this From jackDAnielStanley actually. It gives you FAR more freedom in the editing room. you can recompose a shot if say somehtign is too low or high. No problem, just slide the cropping marker up or down.
 
Hey there.

Why would you send the info in PM and not just post it in this thread?

I'm sure it would be helpful to many people.

Despin out.
 
Despin said:
Hey there.

Why would you send the info in PM and not just post it in this thread?

I'm sure it would be helpful to many people.

Despin out.
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I agree with Despin on this one :D
 
I have found that shooting 4:3... then cropping to 16:9 then increasing the height of the footage to 133% and exporting the file out as 16:9 has yielded good results. At least good enough for a web version file.
 
well, brandon just said it... but here is his pm (if he doesnt mind me sharing it... lol)

brandon: Well, here's what I do. I shoot my film 4:3. Then I import it normally. And I apply a 16:9 crop to all my footage. Then I expand the height of the footage to 133% and export out a quicktime file that is 16:9.:thumbsup:

kyle: doesnt that run down the quality, though?

brandon: The loss in resolution is so slight it's negligable.

there ya go!
 
Yeah, you CAN take the time to use photozoom pro to uprez the footage, but IMO it's not worth the time, especially for a web version. Maybe you want to do that when you put it on DVD. But, for the web version, squeezing the footage is fine.
 
shooting in 16:9

shooting in 16:9

hi i just bought a dvx100 yesterday woohoo.

not sure how dumb this question is. can i just shoot my whole film in 16:9 to begin with? and can someone tell me how to set that on the camera?

thanks
 
Gabin said:
hi i just bought a dvx100 yesterday woohoo.

not sure how dumb this question is. can i just shoot my whole film in 16:9 to begin with? and can someone tell me how to set that on the camera?

thanks
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From what I hear, it's wise to stay away from the "letterbox" method of shooting and just take care of 16:9 in post.
 
Rubix³ said:
I appreciate the replies to this thread - thanks Brandon & ade4all. :thumbsup:
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No problem, and yes, shooting 16:9 in production really limits you in post, in my experience. :thumbsup:
 
Hey all, I want to jump in because I have battled this question over and over. I have searched many threads and read a lot of debate on this subject. I found that there seems to be an equal number of people having strong feelings for one choice or the other. (that is shooting 4:3 and cropping in post or shooting 16:9 to begin with.)

I chose to go with the 16:9 squeeze mode because I have the 100b and it displays the image correctly in the lcd screen. Another determining factor was that it was stated that in shooting 4:3 you are adding a step to the process (which does give you the ability to adjust your crop in post but if you frame it correctly to begin with, you are saving the time for tinkering with this later).

And finally, I thought that I saw a post from Brandon that he agreed with the squeeze method (and I like the footage of Ransom so I chose that route). (Brandon, I am wondering if I am correct and you have since changed your plan or am I mistaken altogether?)

Any way, I am shooting squeeze mode and so far am happy with the look. I haven't noticed a loss of resolution. (and from what I understand, shooting either 4:3 then cropping or shooting 16:9 squeeze both result in loss of resolution. The one benefit of cropping in post is that you have the ability to change your framing, but at the cost of spend that additional time cropping.)

I would love to hear what other people are doing and their results. I can tell you that if I didn't a 100b, I don't think that I would use squeeze mode. The picture in the lcd is just too distorted. But with the 100b, it appears perfectly.

As for Gabin's question... congrat on your new camera. The setting is in the menu selections. Press Menu and the second item down (after scene settings is camera settings. You can change your mode there.)

Looking forward to the discussion here!

Ted
 
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