Credit in this economy

Alex H.

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So I did some thinking today. There've been a few posts on the upsides and downsides of credit. Predatory lending has been a huge player in our current economic situation and the major card services are currently under scrutiny from Capitol Hill. No, I'm not laying all the blame on them... many have gotten credit without really knowing how it works. But then, the credit card companies have counted on ignorance and have made it so darned easy to sign up the household pet (cat/dog/hamster) for a VISA Platinum... how could you not?

I thought I might draft the letter that every card company should send, since they spend so much time feeding off so many folks. Some of this comes from my own experiences of discovering hidden policies, some of it from problems that friends and acquaintences have hit. Much of it is really just from keen observation of how these companies operate. This is the letter we all wish we'd gotten at one point or another...

Dear valued customer,

Due to pressure from lawmakers in Washington, D.C., we are sending you this letter in hopes that it will appease Congress as they work on legislation that we pray (and are strongly confident) will not pass. Our lobbyists are working hard to pay off lawmakers and quash any bills that might threaten our well-being. Such legislation would attempt to regulate our business in ways that we would find uncomfortable. However, we are taking the first step by issuing this letter to all our cardholders in an effort to clarify many of the policies that can be found in fine print on your monthly statements, and in our current Cardholder Agreement (available on our website, if you can find the link).

This should effectively summarize our policies and procedures:

  • We are happy to loan you money, but will be charging you a nominal interest rate should you take more than a month to repay the debt.
  • Often it takes credit to get credit, but we like to help folks get off the ground. Call it our good deed. Please be aware that, if this is your first card, you must carry a balance long enough to incur some interest payments in order for us to report your good credit to the reporting agencies. After all, until we've made a little money off you, we have no obligation to help you (other than graciously extending you credit in the first place).
  • Your interest rate may seem quite favorable when you open a line of credit with us, but all good things must come to an end. Count on it.
  • We reserve the right to change said interest rate at any time… on a whim, really. If your monthly payment is at all late, even once, your APR will increase. In fact, if you look at us or speak to us in a tone of voice that we find unsatisfactory, we may increase your APR.
  • Your APR may be increased to a percentage that will prohibit you from ever repaying the debt. But please, don’t worry about or feel sorry for us. We actually make off much better should you default on your loan.
  • While there is no charge for sending us a check by mail, your statement will arrive so close to your payment date that is unlikely you will have time to turn the payment envelope around and send it back. Any delays caused by the postal service are your responsibility, and postmark dates count for nothing. Mailed before the date or not, any payment received after the due date will add a late payment fee of $39 to your next statement.
  • We will charge you fees for paying your account on time. Granted, those fees may be avoided should you mail a check on time, but as that is not likely to happen, we have added other features for your convenience to assist you in paying on or before your payment date. Please note that these features will cost extra in one way or another:
    • We have set up a website to allow you to make payments directly from your bank account. Please note that, should you be close to your payment date, you may opt to use the Express Payment feature at a cost of $15. Any payment scheduled within your billing cycle may not actually get to us before your payment date. You see, we use a generic web service that’s really a third-party resource, despite the fact that it bears our logo. So even if your payment shows on the website as processed on time, it may suffer a delay of up to 5 business days before the money is actually received from your bank account. In the event that this happens, you will be charged a late payment fee of $39. No, this is not specified on the website, and the website will never reflect any such delay, but that’s not our responsibility. Or, at least, we refuse to accept it as our responsibility. Please also note that the Express Payment, though advertised as being processed the same day, may not process the same day for the aforementioned website delay. In this case, you may incur both the Express Payment fee and a late payment fee, but that’s your problem and not ours.
    • You may opt to make a payment by phone, which will be processed immediately and bypass any website problems. There will be an added fee of $15 for payment by phone. Such is the price for attempting to pay on time, and for distracting the call center employees who should be calling other customers to harass them for payments.
  • We will periodically raise your credit limit, even if you aren’t the most reliable customer. Sometimes we say that this is done to help you avoid over-the-limit fees for an account that stays close to its limit, or that incurs any of the aforementioned fees. (Please also note that a late payment fee that pushes your account past the limit will incur an over-the-limit fee.) Truth is, we’re gambling on the fact that you’ll spend the extra credit we add, and with your already-jacked-up interest rate, we are confident that you will either pay on this account as long as you live, or default on the debt in which case we make out like bandits.
  • You may be thinking by now that this whole thing is a racket, and you’d be right. But your insatiable need for more stuff matches so well with our greed and complete lack of ethics or morals that we’re quite content with the status quo. That said, we’re just going to keep doing what we do.

It is our hope that this has cleared up any confusion you may have about your account with us. Really, it took a lot for us to do this. We’ve tried so hard to keep most of this information from you, our loyal customer, for so long. Know that we value your business, and we look forward to reaping the future rewards of your ignorance and/or irresponsibility.

Sincerely,
Your Credit Card Company
 
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While I do understand some have come to bad tidings because of credit cards, I can't bring myself to see any victims. To me, if you have money in your pocket for something, you do not need a credit card. If you do not have money for something, man you sure as hell don't need a credit card. I've never had one but I married 5 figures worth of credit card debt and had to pay it off. I don't get why people use em. They have never made since to me. I have a debit card. Works just fine. It limits me when I'm broke. Kind of hard to get myself in trouble that way. I have seen people who pretend to think a credit card is money but they don't fool me. They know they are paying hundreds of dollars for a 40 dollar item. It's simply worth it to them at that moment. Again, no victims here.
 
Right, though it seems you missed the point (see specifically the last paragraph).

People walk into this thinking that it will get them somewhere. The credit companies know this, and are able to run free and back people into corners after they have a line of credit. It's a two-way street, but severe lack of regulation over lending agencies has allowed them to take folks' ignorance or irresponsibility and twist it around. The worst part is, they often do better if the borrower defaults.

In writing this, I really thought of it as a warning flag against getting into it in the first place.

The other sad truth is that there are times when one must have a credit record. Case in point: when my wife moved into her first apartment and needed to get the phone connected, the phone company refused based on the fact that she had no credit report of any kind. Now, she had a credit card, but had used it only for small purchases and had paid it off within two weeks each time, so the credit company never reported anything. She had to carry a balance for at least a couple months in order to have a credit report. Only then would the phone company give her a line.

It's an effed-up system.
 
I got fed up with my cards about a year ago and made a spoof of a 70's slasher flick where
I systematically hacked, electrocuted and chain sawed about 30 cards. (most came from a drawer where I threw them when they came in the mail unsolicited). A few weeks ago the media noticed it and it was on Fox news, Fox business and the Wall Street Journal.
Not exactly the way I wanted to become famous....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlzcpJwwCmE
 
It's a predictible system. Cigarettes are not legal because they are good for people or the environment. They are because they put dolalrs in pockets of politicians and other prominant decision making figures. It also why we pretend to be agains drunk driving in this society but place parking lots at bars and booze in gas stations. We even pretend to want people not to speed. Because there is money in it, they'll sooner let us do it and fine for it than simply govern cars per speed zone with transmitters and recievers.
People are greedy and they lie. No surprises. Credit cards are just another example of the exploitation of ourselves.
 
I told my fiancee to declare bankruptcy and eradicate her accumulated debt, before we married. No way in hell I was going to pay *that* off...the way I see it credit cards are for the purpose of convenience, not a source from which to borrow. I mean, what kind of doofus wants to borrow money on those kind of terms...? Pay the damned thing off each month, in full, and - hey! no problem!

Every last bit of relevant information is there in the fine print. People who don't bother to read it (and can't bother to do the research/have someone explain the parts that they find unclear) have no one to blame but themselves. If people find credit to be another exciting way to get hoist on their own petards, so be it. It's the new natural selection: if you're a willfully ignorant jackass when it comes to your own financial affairs, you will be selected against.

Goes double for mortgage debt, too. If you can't f'ing bother to read and comprehend the contract, don't sign your name to it. And if you do...don't come wailing for my tax dollars to help bail your idjit ass out of trouble.
 
I told my fiancee to declare bankruptcy and eradicate her accumulated debt, before we married. No way in hell I was going to pay *that* off...the way I see it credit cards are for the purpose of convenience, not a source from which to borrow.

thank you goodness you listened to these guys.

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