Creating a digital push in....

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action junkie

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Does anybody know how to create an effect for a push in (to simulate a dolly push) on a clip? I know how to create a Kens Burn effect using the Avid Pan and Zoom effect, but that's only for imported images. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
You can use the resize effect and just animate it with keyframes. You'll proabably get better quality doing this in a 3rd party effects program, but the resize effect is good for quick and dirty.
 
Now ur talking resizing, I want to convert 4:3 material to squeezed 16:9, I want to do that with the resize effect, do someone know on how much I must set the verical scaling on? Is is 75?
 
Ok, thnx! I was confusing squeezed bringing back to letterbox with making squeezed metarial. So, does it meens that when I will scale squeezed down to letterbox, it had to be 77 for vertical?
 
You want to make all your footage "stretched" to 133. Then when you render the DVD file in Sorenson, or whatever you program you use, set it to 16:9 and it will be correct.
 
No no, I understand how to make 16:9 dvd's, I do that allready.

It was a seperate question: When I want to bring back 16:9 squeezed to 4:3 letterbox, do I scale it back vertically to 77?
 
Umm, how did this thread get hijacked to 16:9 issues?

to answer the original question, it wouldn't be easy. Objects in the foreground and background don't move at the same speed, so in order to decently simulate any kind of dolly move, you'd need to separate them. If you're dealing with a still, that's not so bad... just pluck out the foreground, paint in the missing holes in the background, and animate.

on moving footage, though, you're talking about a lot of rotoscoping. that'll be fun.
 
75, 76, and 77 are all good numbers. Just see which ones looks better to your eyes. I believe that mathmatically 77 is correct, but I frequently use 75.
 
dougspice said:
Umm, how did this thread get hijacked to 16:9 issues?.
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I wondered that myself. :)

to answer the original question, it wouldn't be easy. Objects in the foreground and background don't move at the same speed, so in order to decently simulate any kind of dolly move, you'd need to separate them. If you're dealing with a still, that's not so bad... just pluck out the foreground, paint in the missing holes in the background, and animate.

on moving footage, though, you're talking about a lot of rotoscoping. that'll be fun
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Dougspice is quite correct. To get any kind of convincing dolly shot you have to take paralax into account. Not really sure what the intended goal is here though.
 
I'm not worried about a convincing dolly move. Gritty is all right by me for this piece. The piece I'm working on is a short behind-the-scenes-making-of and I'm trying for a Project Greenlight/Real World style with the over the top drama.
 
Got another question about the keyframes....

In setting keyframes on say a Pan and Zoom, and if I want two keyframes to have the same exact detail (zoom, x, y, etc), is there a way to copy the details and repeat it on the next keyframe without having to do it twice to match up the numbers?
 
action junkie said:
Got another question about the keyframes....

In setting keyframes on say a Pan and Zoom, and if I want two keyframes to have the same exact detail (zoom, x, y, etc), is there a way to copy the details and repeat it on the next keyframe without having to do it twice to match up the numbers?
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Highlight the right keyframe en press Ctrl+C, then highlight the keyframe you want to copy to, and press Ctrl+V. Thats it.
 
Sweet. Thanks.

Btw, how long has everyone been using Avid? What's everyone's experience with it and what versions? Curious to know. I've been using Avid since my film school years at college. So it's been 3+ years, primarily on Avid Xpress Pro systems. Recently I've done some assistant editing on an Adrenaline system where I work.
 
About 4 years for me. Xpress DV and Xpress Pro. I got to touch a Symphony once. That was fun. :)
 
I edit on Avid systems for about 6 years now. Learn it on a Film Academy, on Composer systems running on Mac G3's. Now I work for TV stations, and edit on Xpress and Composer on PC's. At home I edit on Xpress Pro HD.
 
On Avid since 2000, used XDV 3.5, then Media Composer, now XpressPro HD.

I've been using Avid since my film school years at college. So it's been 3+ years, primarily on Avid Xpress Pro systems. Recently I've done some assistant editing on an Adrenaline system where I work.
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is there a way to copy the details and repeat it on the next keyframe without having to do it twice to match up the numbers?
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No offense meant, but you've been using Avid for 3+ yrs and didn't know you could copy/paste keyframes?
 
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